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GE organisms actually become part of the bacteria in our digestive tracts and reproduce continuously inside us. But the USDA now wants to to remove all controls from GE corn and cotton! A new Action Alert.
There are no human clinical trials of genetically engineered foods. The only published human feeding experiment revealed that genetic material inserted into GE soy transfers into the DNA of bacteria living inside our intestines and continues to function. Even after we stop eating GE foods, we may still have the GE proteins produced continuously inside us.
http://www.anh-usa.org/genetically-engi ... e-systems/
Forgive me if this has already been posted, I just found this today.
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As if it wasn't bad enough
Resolved MC symptoms successfully w/L-Glutamine, Probiotics and Vitamins, GF since 8/'09. DX w/MC 10/'09.
Hi Connie,
I'm not a big fan of GE foods either, but to be honest, I didn't realize that there were any controls left to be removed, at least on a practical level. Where the rubber meets the road, (on the farm), BT corn seed has been available for about 15 years now, and so it's a well-established product, by this point in time. Probably the only reason that 100% of the corn acreage in this country is not devoted to BT seed every year, is because the seed is extremely expensive, so every farmer has to assess the cost/benefit relationship for his or her own particular situation, in any given year. I haven't grown any cotton in over 30 years, so I don't keep up with technological developments in cotton seed, except to note that cotton seed is so expensive these days that it will practically blow our mind, when you price it, (if you're planning on buying any, that is). I'm talking several hundred dollars per bag of seed, and a bag will only plant a few acres. When I was a kid, cotton seed cost something like 15 or 20 bucks per bag, (and that was considered to be expensive, at the time).
That article seems a bit sensational, and it includes a lot of threats of dire consequences, all of which are preceded by words such as "could", or "may", but I think it's worth noting that in the 15 years since BT corn has been used in production agriculture, none of those dire forecasts have come true, (nor are they likely to happen). The article also fails to mention the benefits of the BT component, namely cheaper, and more abundant food, in an era where we are approaching the limits of food production capabilities, in an increasingly hungry world.
There is also another, relatively unheralded benefit that any farmer who lives in the South, can point out. The elimination of the worm damage on the end of each ear of corn means that mycotoxin-producing fungi no longer have their favorite location to become established, so the risk of toxic mycotoxin contamination is considerably lower with the BT corn varieties. (Fungi love to get started in the warm, moist worm manure left at the tip of the ear of corn, where the earworms feed on the developing grain). All of the "claims" about the possible risks that might be associated with BT corn, mentioned in that article, are merely wild speculation, but the risk of cancer, and other adverse consequences of some of the mycotoxins that grow in corn, (especially when earworms are allowed to attack the ear), is real. Earworms, (which are actually the same worms that later migrate to the cotton fields, {where they are called bollworms}, to cause damage there), are not the nice, harmless little creatures that the anti's would have us believe. They are actually vectors for organisms that cause cancer, and various other major health issues found in our food supply. Note how the authors step on their own tongue in this quote:
As I said, I don't like GE crops either, (mainly because the seed is ridiculously expensive), but the technology works, and it is currently the only option we have, if we are to prevent the world's population from starving in the coming decades. It's natural to fear new technology, and most of us are typically reluctant to endorse change, but change is inevitable, and innovation is necessary, because the world will not stand still for us, just because we have feet of clay. Regardless of how we personally feel about any product, the marketplace always determines the viability of any particular technology, and there is no question that GE foods have been a roaring success. There's also no reason to doubt that they will continue to be. At least that's how I see it.
Please don't shoot the messenger. I'm not saying that GE foods are without any faults - I'm just pointing out that they are a done deal, and at this point, there is little to be gained by complaining. It's all over but the shouting.
Tex
I'm not a big fan of GE foods either, but to be honest, I didn't realize that there were any controls left to be removed, at least on a practical level. Where the rubber meets the road, (on the farm), BT corn seed has been available for about 15 years now, and so it's a well-established product, by this point in time. Probably the only reason that 100% of the corn acreage in this country is not devoted to BT seed every year, is because the seed is extremely expensive, so every farmer has to assess the cost/benefit relationship for his or her own particular situation, in any given year. I haven't grown any cotton in over 30 years, so I don't keep up with technological developments in cotton seed, except to note that cotton seed is so expensive these days that it will practically blow our mind, when you price it, (if you're planning on buying any, that is). I'm talking several hundred dollars per bag of seed, and a bag will only plant a few acres. When I was a kid, cotton seed cost something like 15 or 20 bucks per bag, (and that was considered to be expensive, at the time).
That article seems a bit sensational, and it includes a lot of threats of dire consequences, all of which are preceded by words such as "could", or "may", but I think it's worth noting that in the 15 years since BT corn has been used in production agriculture, none of those dire forecasts have come true, (nor are they likely to happen). The article also fails to mention the benefits of the BT component, namely cheaper, and more abundant food, in an era where we are approaching the limits of food production capabilities, in an increasingly hungry world.
There is also another, relatively unheralded benefit that any farmer who lives in the South, can point out. The elimination of the worm damage on the end of each ear of corn means that mycotoxin-producing fungi no longer have their favorite location to become established, so the risk of toxic mycotoxin contamination is considerably lower with the BT corn varieties. (Fungi love to get started in the warm, moist worm manure left at the tip of the ear of corn, where the earworms feed on the developing grain). All of the "claims" about the possible risks that might be associated with BT corn, mentioned in that article, are merely wild speculation, but the risk of cancer, and other adverse consequences of some of the mycotoxins that grow in corn, (especially when earworms are allowed to attack the ear), is real. Earworms, (which are actually the same worms that later migrate to the cotton fields, {where they are called bollworms}, to cause damage there), are not the nice, harmless little creatures that the anti's would have us believe. They are actually vectors for organisms that cause cancer, and various other major health issues found in our food supply. Note how the authors step on their own tongue in this quote:
If viral DNA was a problem 40 million years ago, then obviously it's a part of natural evolution. Why on earth should we begin to worry about it now? Get over it, folks - 40 million years should be enough time to prove to even the most truculent critic, that the transfer of viral DNA does not spell the end of the world. If it hasn't done us in by now, it's probably not going to.And we’ve seen cross-species transfer of DNA happen before. A significant percentage of human DNA is actually viral DNA that became part of us over 40 million years ago. There is concern that virally transmitted DNA may cause mutations and psychiatric disorders such as schizophrenia and mood disorders. GE organisms may exacerbate this phenomenon.
As I said, I don't like GE crops either, (mainly because the seed is ridiculously expensive), but the technology works, and it is currently the only option we have, if we are to prevent the world's population from starving in the coming decades. It's natural to fear new technology, and most of us are typically reluctant to endorse change, but change is inevitable, and innovation is necessary, because the world will not stand still for us, just because we have feet of clay. Regardless of how we personally feel about any product, the marketplace always determines the viability of any particular technology, and there is no question that GE foods have been a roaring success. There's also no reason to doubt that they will continue to be. At least that's how I see it.
Please don't shoot the messenger. I'm not saying that GE foods are without any faults - I'm just pointing out that they are a done deal, and at this point, there is little to be gained by complaining. It's all over but the shouting.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Sometimes you surprise me, Tex, if it's all over but the shouting, then we may as well just give up and let the starving starve to death rather than slowly poisoning them by destroying their health. I'm not a farmer, but did grow up on one and saw what companies like Monsanto and Dupont did to my father.As I said, I don't like GE crops either, (mainly because the seed is ridiculously expensive), but the technology works, and it is currently the only option we have, if we are to prevent the world's population from starving in the coming decades. It's natural to fear new technology, and most of us are typically reluctant to endorse change, but change is inevitable, and innovation is necessary, because the world will not stand still for us, just because we have feet of clay. Regardless of how we personally feel about any product, the marketplace always determines the viability of any particular technology, and there is no question that GE foods have been a roaring success. There's also no reason to doubt that they will continue to be. At least that's how I see it.
Please don't shoot the messenger. I'm not saying that GE foods are without any faults - I'm just pointing out that they are a done deal, and at this point, there is little to be gained by complaining. It's all over but the shouting.
What article isn't a "bit sensational" when trying to make a point?
This article and others on this site are well worth reading:
http://howtoeliminatepain.com/crohns-di ... erative-c/
And here's some more stuff from someone in your neck of the woods:Lead investigator Wendy Garrett, assistant professor of immunology and infectious diseases at Harvard said, “In this study, we identified two microbes that instigate gut inflammation that leads to inflammatory bowel disease ….”
These microbes were identified by Russell L. Blaylock, MD and Daniel C. Dantini, MD more than a decade ago. But their studies and books have been ignored or labeled controversial by the industry because their books identify the causes of these bacteria microbes as coming from genetically modified foods and the dangerous addictive chemicals added to packaged foods by food manufacturers.
The study alleges that an “individual’s genetic background influences what bacteria reside within his or her intestine.” Senior author Laurie Glimcher, the Irene Heinz Given Professor of Immunology at HSPH said, “Whether IBD is caused by individual species of bacteria or disruptions of entire microbial communities remains controversial.” It only remains controversial because of the political might of Monsanto to silent or dilute its critics.
To any Crohn’s, ulcerative colitis and IBD sufferer who has been diagnosed with malignant colon cancer, it is neither controversial nor disputed. We all have a genetic predisposition. The question is what activates the genetic disposition in people with family histories of digestive diseases. Growing evidence points to the bacteria remaining in the digestive track after eating genetically modified foods.
Thirteen years of research, reading more than 4,000 books, articles and studies and writing four health books with my co-author, Ashley F. Brooks, led us to a different conclusion. The conclusion is supported by more than 600 studies from independent scientists and researchers.
The genes of genetically modified foods are split with the E. coli bacteria, Bt toxin and other “gene promotors” that leave the bacterium’s residue in your gut that causes IBD, IBS, Crohn’s and ulcerative colitis. It didn’t get there by accident. The statistical increase in digestive diseases and colorectal cancer can be directly traced to the creation of genetically modified foods and the addition of dangerous addictive chemicals in packaged foods.
http://www.robynobrien.com/default.htm
I'm not ready to give up on humanity quite yet.
Resolved MC symptoms successfully w/L-Glutamine, Probiotics and Vitamins, GF since 8/'09. DX w/MC 10/'09.
OK, so maybe it's working now. Here's what I've been trying to post:
What article isn't a "bit sensational" when trying to make a point?
This article and others on this site are well worth reading:
http://howtoeliminatepain.com/crohns-di ... erative-c/
http://www.robynobrien.com/default.htm
I'm not ready to give up on humanity quite yet.
Sometimes you surprise me, Tex, if it's all over but the shouting, then we may as well just give up and let the starving starve to death rather than slowly poisoning them by destroying their health. I'm not a farmer, but did grow up on one and saw what companies like Monsanto and Dupont did to my father.As I said, I don't like GE crops either, (mainly because the seed is ridiculously expensive), but the technology works, and it is currently the only option we have, if we are to prevent the world's population from starving in the coming decades. It's natural to fear new technology, and most of us are typically reluctant to endorse change, but change is inevitable, and innovation is necessary, because the world will not stand still for us, just because we have feet of clay. Regardless of how we personally feel about any product, the marketplace always determines the viability of any particular technology, and there is no question that GE foods have been a roaring success. There's also no reason to doubt that they will continue to be. At least that's how I see it.
Please don't shoot the messenger. I'm not saying that GE foods are without any faults - I'm just pointing out that they are a done deal, and at this point, there is little to be gained by complaining. It's all over but the shouting.
What article isn't a "bit sensational" when trying to make a point?
This article and others on this site are well worth reading:
http://howtoeliminatepain.com/crohns-di ... erative-c/
And here's some more stuff from someone in your neck of the woods:Lead investigator Wendy Garrett, assistant professor of immunology and infectious diseases at Harvard said, “In this study, we identified two microbes that instigate gut inflammation that leads to inflammatory bowel disease ….”
These microbes were identified by Russell L. Blaylock, MD and Daniel C. Dantini, MD more than a decade ago. But their studies and books have been ignored or labeled controversial by the industry because their books identify the causes of these bacteria microbes as coming from genetically modified foods and the dangerous addictive chemicals added to packaged foods by food manufacturers.
The study alleges that an “individual’s genetic background influences what bacteria reside within his or her intestine.” Senior author Laurie Glimcher, the Irene Heinz Given Professor of Immunology at HSPH said, “Whether IBD is caused by individual species of bacteria or disruptions of entire microbial communities remains controversial.” It only remains controversial because of the political might of Monsanto to silent or dilute its critics.
To any Crohn’s, ulcerative colitis and IBD sufferer who has been diagnosed with malignant colon cancer, it is neither controversial nor disputed. We all have a genetic predisposition. The question is what activates the genetic disposition in people with family histories of digestive diseases. Growing evidence points to the bacteria remaining in the digestive track after eating genetically modified foods.
Thirteen years of research, reading more than 4,000 books, articles and studies and writing four health books with my co-author, Ashley F. Brooks, led us to a different conclusion. The conclusion is supported by more than 600 studies from independent scientists and researchers.
The genes of genetically modified foods are split with the E. coli bacteria, Bt toxin and other “gene promotors” that leave the bacterium’s residue in your gut that causes IBD, IBS, Crohn’s and ulcerative colitis. It didn’t get there by accident. The statistical increase in digestive diseases and colorectal cancer can be directly traced to the creation of genetically modified foods and the addition of dangerous addictive chemicals in packaged foods.
http://www.robynobrien.com/default.htm
I'm not ready to give up on humanity quite yet.
Resolved MC symptoms successfully w/L-Glutamine, Probiotics and Vitamins, GF since 8/'09. DX w/MC 10/'09.
Hi Connie,
Well, that last post actually showed up on the board.
I'm as baffled as you are. ???? I wonder if one of the "alt", or "ctrl" keys could occasionally be sticking on your keyboard. That can cause this sort of problem.
I once ordered a replacement keyboard for a laptop computer, because every time I booted it, part of the keyboard would only enter numbers, instead of letters. After the replacement part arrived, I discovered that the "num lock" key had accidentally been depressed, in combination with the control key, which effectively locked the "num lock" on. After I depressed both keys at the same time again, the keyboard worked just fine.
If your keyboard is working correctly otherwise, the problem almost has to be in your browser. Have you tried a different browser?
I hope you can track down the problem.
Tex
Well, that last post actually showed up on the board.
I'm as baffled as you are. ???? I wonder if one of the "alt", or "ctrl" keys could occasionally be sticking on your keyboard. That can cause this sort of problem.
I once ordered a replacement keyboard for a laptop computer, because every time I booted it, part of the keyboard would only enter numbers, instead of letters. After the replacement part arrived, I discovered that the "num lock" key had accidentally been depressed, in combination with the control key, which effectively locked the "num lock" on. After I depressed both keys at the same time again, the keyboard worked just fine.
If your keyboard is working correctly otherwise, the problem almost has to be in your browser. Have you tried a different browser?
I hope you can track down the problem.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Connie,
I see that you logged on and still weren't able to post. I've made you a moderator for this forum. That should allow you to post, if the problem is somehow connected with a permissions problem due to a corrupt cookie in your browser. If this doesn't work, the problem is probably due to a browser glitch, or a firewall issue on your computer. I don't know what else to suggest, at the moment.
Tex
I see that you logged on and still weren't able to post. I've made you a moderator for this forum. That should allow you to post, if the problem is somehow connected with a permissions problem due to a corrupt cookie in your browser. If this doesn't work, the problem is probably due to a browser glitch, or a firewall issue on your computer. I don't know what else to suggest, at the moment.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Thanks for your help, Tex, have no idea why I've had problems, but it may be that I was misusing the quote option.
I guess most articles are a "bit sensational" when trying to make a point.
This article and others on this site are well worth reading:
http://howtoeliminatepain.com/crohns-di ... erative-c/
Some pertinent stuff from within this article:
The study alleges that an “individual’s genetic background influences what bacteria reside within his or her intestine.” Senior author Laurie Glimcher, the Irene Heinz Given Professor of Immunology at HSPH said, “Whether IBD is caused by individual species of bacteria or disruptions of entire microbial communities remains controversial.” It only remains controversial because of the political might of Monsanto to silent or dilute its critics.
To any Crohn’s, ulcerative colitis and IBD sufferer who has been diagnosed with malignant colon cancer, it is neither controversial nor disputed. We all have a genetic predisposition. The question is what activates the genetic disposition in people with family histories of digestive diseases. Growing evidence points to the bacteria remaining in the digestive track after eating genetically modified foods.
The genes of genetically modified foods are split with the E. coli bacteria, Bt toxin and other “gene promotors” that leave the bacterium’s residue in your gut that causes IBD, IBS, Crohn’s and ulcerative colitis. It didn’t get there by accident. The statistical increase in digestive diseases and colorectal cancer can be directly traced to the creation of genetically modified foods and the addition of dangerous addictive chemicals in packaged foods.
And here's some more stuff from someone in your neck of the woods, Tex:
http://www.robynobrien.com/default.htm
Just think it's pretty horrific that we have no choice to go back to non GMO foods.
I guess most articles are a "bit sensational" when trying to make a point.
This article and others on this site are well worth reading:
http://howtoeliminatepain.com/crohns-di ... erative-c/
Some pertinent stuff from within this article:
The study alleges that an “individual’s genetic background influences what bacteria reside within his or her intestine.” Senior author Laurie Glimcher, the Irene Heinz Given Professor of Immunology at HSPH said, “Whether IBD is caused by individual species of bacteria or disruptions of entire microbial communities remains controversial.” It only remains controversial because of the political might of Monsanto to silent or dilute its critics.
To any Crohn’s, ulcerative colitis and IBD sufferer who has been diagnosed with malignant colon cancer, it is neither controversial nor disputed. We all have a genetic predisposition. The question is what activates the genetic disposition in people with family histories of digestive diseases. Growing evidence points to the bacteria remaining in the digestive track after eating genetically modified foods.
The genes of genetically modified foods are split with the E. coli bacteria, Bt toxin and other “gene promotors” that leave the bacterium’s residue in your gut that causes IBD, IBS, Crohn’s and ulcerative colitis. It didn’t get there by accident. The statistical increase in digestive diseases and colorectal cancer can be directly traced to the creation of genetically modified foods and the addition of dangerous addictive chemicals in packaged foods.
And here's some more stuff from someone in your neck of the woods, Tex:
http://www.robynobrien.com/default.htm
Just think it's pretty horrific that we have no choice to go back to non GMO foods.
Resolved MC symptoms successfully w/L-Glutamine, Probiotics and Vitamins, GF since 8/'09. DX w/MC 10/'09.
Connie,
That blog cites an article published in Cell Host & Microbe, implying that the article supports their contentions in the blog. I couldn't access the original article, (since that requires a paid subscription), but I did find a publication where it was covered, and I'm guessing that the original article doesn't say a thing about GMO products affecting gut bacteria population dynamics, because this science publication doesn't mention any such connection. The "quote" from the blog that you cited, apparently was taken out of context, and embellished by adding their own agenda, and by omitting important parts of the original paper.
For example, this "quote" from the blog:
Hardly resembles the quote in ScienceNewsline, because the bloggers with an agenda left out the punch line, (which I've emphasized in red):
Here's a link to an abstract of the original article, (in Cell Host & Microbe), and I don't see one word mentioned there, either, about GMO or GE organisms. If GE organisms played a part in the research project, surely the authors would have mentioned it in their abstract.
http://www.cell.com/cell-host-microbe/a ... %2900276-3
The bottom line is, that blog is worse than just misleading, it's a total fraud.
And again, I'll point out that I don't like GMO/GE foods either, and I especially don't like the way that the government decided to just cram them down our throats, whether we like or not, but if there's one thing that I dislike even more than our government abusing our rights to choose the food that we want, it's ripoff artists who profit by using fraud to promote their agenda. IMO, such individuals are lower than pond scum, because they cheat people by manipulating the truth, and by using half-truths, to gain their trust.
Tex
That blog cites an article published in Cell Host & Microbe, implying that the article supports their contentions in the blog. I couldn't access the original article, (since that requires a paid subscription), but I did find a publication where it was covered, and I'm guessing that the original article doesn't say a thing about GMO products affecting gut bacteria population dynamics, because this science publication doesn't mention any such connection. The "quote" from the blog that you cited, apparently was taken out of context, and embellished by adding their own agenda, and by omitting important parts of the original paper.
For example, this "quote" from the blog:
The study alleges that an “individual’s genetic background influences what bacteria reside within his or her intestine.” Senior author Laurie Glimcher, the Irene Heinz Given Professor of Immunology at HSPH said, “Whether IBD is caused by individual species of bacteria or disruptions of entire microbial communities remains controversial.” It only remains controversial because of the political might of Monsanto to silent or dilute its critics.
Hardly resembles the quote in ScienceNewsline, because the bloggers with an agenda left out the punch line, (which I've emphasized in red):
http://www.sciencenewsline.com/medicine ... 00020.htmlWhether IBD is caused by individual species of bacteria or disruptions of entire microbial communities remains controversial, said senior author Laurie H. Glimcher, Irene Heinz Given Professor of Immunology at HSPH. "Our findings suggest that answer bridges both hypotheses--specific species of bacteria (Klebsiella pneumoniae and Proteus mirabilis) appear to work in concert with the indigenous gut microbial community to cause IBD."
Here's a link to an abstract of the original article, (in Cell Host & Microbe), and I don't see one word mentioned there, either, about GMO or GE organisms. If GE organisms played a part in the research project, surely the authors would have mentioned it in their abstract.
http://www.cell.com/cell-host-microbe/a ... %2900276-3
The bottom line is, that blog is worse than just misleading, it's a total fraud.
And again, I'll point out that I don't like GMO/GE foods either, and I especially don't like the way that the government decided to just cram them down our throats, whether we like or not, but if there's one thing that I dislike even more than our government abusing our rights to choose the food that we want, it's ripoff artists who profit by using fraud to promote their agenda. IMO, such individuals are lower than pond scum, because they cheat people by manipulating the truth, and by using half-truths, to gain their trust.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.