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Another "Well Doh!" Type Research Article :roll:

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Hi All,

Well, researchers have made us all proud of them once again, by discovering that autism is much more prevalent in "geek cities". :shock: Surprise, surprise! Did it ever dawn on a single one of them that maybe the fact that geeks in general are a lot less likely to allow the sun to contact their skin might have anything to do with that situation? (IOW, geek families are more likely to be vitamin D deficient.) Nope. They would have to have devoted a few seconds of thought to their work in order to figure that out. :roll:
Childhood autism is two to four times as common in Eindhoven, the centre of the Dutch information technology industry, as it is in two comparably sized Dutch cities with far fewer IT employees.

The result supports the suggestion that people who work in hi-tech engineering and computing industries, which demand the kinds of systemising and analytical skills often seen in people with autism, are more likely to have autistic children too.

Rising autism has also been seen in regions such as Silicon Valley, California. But the Dutch study claims to be the first to directly ask whether concentrations of IT workers mean more children with autism too.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2 ... lands.html

What am I missing here? :didimiss: Is there some unwritten law that I'm unaware of, that says that researchers are not allowed to possess any common sense, for fear that it might interfere with their work?

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I remember reading about this "connection" several years ago when I was doing some research on ADHD, don't know if Vit D is the culprit here, but genetics or chemical pollution seems to be the culprit, IMO. My DH has ADHD, as do/did both of his parents and his sister. Of the 4 grandchildren (all male) in his family, 2 are genius, and one is so disabled he will never be able to live on his own (he's 21 now) and the other (he's 5) has issues that are yet to be dx, but clearly present.

Quote from this article: http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/9.12 ... rs_pr.html For all we know, the first tools on earth might have been developed by a loner sitting at the back of the cave, chipping at thousands of rocks to find the one that made the sharpest spear, while the neurotypicals chattered away in the firelight. Perhaps certain arcane systems of logic, mathematics, music, and stories - particularly remote and fantastic ones - have been passed down from phenotype to phenotype, in parallel with the DNA that helped shape minds which would know exactly what to do with these strange and elegant creations.

Bill Gates has Aspergers, as does his wife and, I believe, one of their son's, so I'm inclined to go with the genetic link. Clearly Aspergers didn't disable Bill. I take issue with many of the "autism spectrum" dx being a "disability". It takes all kinds to make a world.

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That said, I think that autism spectrum disorders are over diagnosed because these kids/people just "think differently" and are different and probably cause problems for their teachers and parents. Probably haven't worded this well..........my DH is a challenge for someone with attention surplus disorder, but the people I know (my oldest daughter being one) who have ADHD, are some of the most creative and intelligent people I know.
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I know someone whose autism-spectrum son has really thrived on GF/CF diet. So I guess what we're saying is, geeks and geniuses and gluten-sensitivity may go in hand; IOW, those of us here are really, really smart. (I'm really feeling my never-Dx'd ADD lately...)

And when something goes wrong in those inter-connected things, it can go wrong in a variety of ways, and at a varying levels of severity.

Nowadays the neurotypicals are chattering away over pizza and beer...

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My autism-spectrum nephew - the one who is 21 - is supposed to be GF/CF, but unwatched he will eat anything he can get his hands on. His Dad has Crohns and I've been trying to get the whole family to consider the myriad of health issues in the family as possibly having a gluten link. My DH's sister has finally agreed to go GF as of 11 days ago, so it will be interesting to see if this helps her, as she's recently been told she may have lupus - a dx she finds pretty daunting.

My ADHD daughter is so smart she is intimidating, but she's a challenge. She's becoming a nurse and my DH is a Paramedic. They are great at focusing on the immediate. Have no idea how all these things inter-connect, Sara, it takes all kinds.
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it takes all kinds
Amen to that! (I hope I can figure out what I'm especially good at, again and again, over time, AND play nicely with all kinds of 'other kinds' of people, talents and strengths.)

Thanks for the link,

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Been away from here for far too long, Sara, but you obviously know how to play nicely with all kinds and I truly appreciate what you are contributing here. You're "especially good" as a mentor from what I've seen.
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Thank you for your kindness and encouragement, truly and from the bottom of my heart.
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Stanz,

Interesting observations. I read a recent book about the apparent increase in ADHD prevalence over the years. The author postulated that an actual genetic change/mutation favoring ADHD is occuring.........because the kinds of problems we now need to solve require a different kind of thinking. Old style, linear thinking was important up to now, but out-of-the box, quantum-leap thinking is what will be needed for the future.

Did you ever see the screening tool for neurotypical people (a play on the ADHD screening tools)? It's a hoot! One of the true/false questions is "I find sorting socks to be an extremely satisfying activity". LOL!

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Sara,

I've been way too busy with work to be here for quite some time, so you are new to me and from what I see you are a true gem and I really appreciate what I've seen that you have contributed here.

Polly, I have no idea if this is an evolution in humans, but hopefully it is. Have read lots of things about hunter/gatherer types and think that there is some validation there for this personality type. Want to make it clear that I have NO children with my now DH. My girls are from my previous DH, so there is no genetic link, although I never recognized that she was ADHD until she was in her 20's and didn't recognize that my former DH is ADHD, but now looking back, it should have been pretty obvious. Must have an attraction for that type :smile:

No, I haven't seen the screening tool for neurotypical people. Do you have a link? The "sorting socks" comment is painfully real in my house.

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