Dumb question - can we have whey protein?

Zizzle · Post by **Zizzle** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:59 am

I am dairy intolerant, and by that I mean lactose and casein (that I'm aware of). But could I drink shakes and supplements made with only whey protein?? Is anyone here using whey protein? I'm asking because I saw a review for gluten-free, soy-free, on-the-go protein shakes called Mix1, but they are based on whey protein. I need some healthy alternatives to nut bars and potato chips!!

http://glutenfreeworks.com/blog/2011/08 ... ein-shake/

sarkin · Post by **sarkin** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:35 am

I've read claims that it's safe, but I wouldn't do it to myself. Dairy is horrible, and it doesn't take much. I can't see how the *protein* in whey could not have any of the *protein* that is casein. I am guessing that it might be OK for some people who are only lactose-intolerant, and even if someone is extremely sensitive to lactose, I can't really believe the protein isolate would be so very perfectly isolated.

We use hemp protein for shakes. I realize this product would be more convenient to grab and go. Without the hemp, I get hungry really fast (sugar crash!). I also add fish oil (started with a small 'dose' and gradually increased), and that, too, helps with staying satisfied.

Our smoothies are a very satisfying meal - lunch or breakfast. I have carried them with me on the go, kept very cold, and they hold up for some hours.

I would recommend a DIY version (but, isn't that what I always say?)... or maybe you can find one that's not whey-based.

Good luck!

Post by **tex** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:35 pm

Zizzle,

There are two risks:

1. Cross-contamination, as Sara pointed out, which is very common in dairy protein products, (even though the manufacturers always deny it, of course)

2. You may be sensitive to whey protein, itself. The Enterolab milk test only tests for antibodies to casein, because casein is the protein in milk that most people are most likely to react to. The test doesn't provide any information about whey protein.

Rice protein is another option.

Most people who recommend whey protein powder don't really know what they're talking about. For years and years, bodybuilders have been praising the benefits of whey protein power as the ultimate supplement for building muscle, while losing body fat. Guess what? Research published over 10 years ago clearly proved that casein is almost twice as effective as whey protein, for gaining muscle mass while losing fat.

So what do bodybuilders mostly use these days, 11 years after the publication of that eye-opening report? They still use whey protein, of course, because whey protein powder continues to be heavily promoted for that purpose, and most people just trustingly buy whatever products are the most heavily promoted.

http://content.karger.com/ProdukteDB/pr ... ?doi=12817

Tex

sarkin · Post by **sarkin** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:42 pm

Tex,

GREAT point about rice protein - the first few products containing that ingredient that I found also had pea protein, and I was avoiding legumes (still am). But there are rice-only protein powders. Z, you probably already know you tolerate rice OK... saving you the annoying step of testing hemp protein, when all you really want at the moment is a safe snack-on-the-run.

I can see why they promote the whey protein so cheerily - they have a whole setup designed to make and market and distribute it... if it's not-so-good at its main purpose, what would be the good in admitting it, when you could just.... Market Harder!

L,
S

Zizzle · Post by **Zizzle** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:58 pm

I suppose I can do rice or egg, although I'd rather just eat real eggs!!

Gabes-Apg · Post by **Gabes-Apg** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:43 pm

Zizzle
i am have tried a rice protein powder
the label says, it is free from, casein, corn, gluten, sucrose and yeast

(lactose and casein are my least sensitive ingredients )

i did have a mild reaction, and i think it is soy based reaction as it has xanthum gum.

i was hoping to have something in drink or shake form that would be a snack or a meal while out and about. especially in summer

Gabby · Post by **Gabby** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 2:48 pm

I just love this rice protein powder:

http://www.sunwarrior.com/

If anyone wants to sample it, PM me and I'll send you some. I have chocolate and vanilla flavors and I bought too much of it really.

Gabby

nancyl · Post by **nancyl** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:14 pm

I make a smoothie using the following: Vega Complete Whole Food Health Optimizer. It calls for two scoops per serving, but I only add one with almond milk, strawberries, bananas, and add some coconut ice cream. It keeps me full. I've been drinking this for a few weeks and so far I've been OK with it. It is GF, SF, and DF.

http://myvega.com/products/whole-food-h ... s-benefits

Nancy

harma · Post by **harma** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:28 pm

looks like meat of fish are the best protein sources for MC'ers with a lot of food intolerances...

sarkin · Post by **sarkin** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:50 pm

Harma,

That is true, but you have to be pretty hard-core to make a smoothie or shake out of fish and meat.

Believe me.... it has crossed my mind

mbeezie · Post by **mbeezie** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:24 pm

Anyone remember the bass-o-matic from Saturday Night Live?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BQFv83QJ2Y

Mary Beth

Post by **tex** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:54 pm

Yep, those were the good old days of SNL.

And I reckon it fits the description of a "safe" protein "smoothie".

Thanks for the link.

Tex

sarkin · Post by **sarkin** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:25 pm

My husband just walked in and saw the first tenth-of-a-second of that video, and shrieked "bass-o-matic!"

Yes, indeedy, the good old days of SNL...

Um... if I actually do create a workable meat/fish smoothie... you'll read it here first.

L,
S

Zizzle · Post by **Zizzle** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 8:16 am

Well I certainly get enough meat and fish...I feel like a carnivore!! And shellfish..I'd be lost if I couldn't eat squid, shrimp, scallops and lobster. I believe the body needs extra protein and fat when dealing with inflammation, so it's all OK. What I'm missing most in my diet is YOGURT!! It takes all my might not to reach in the fridge for the plain yogurt to add honey and berries to it, like I do for my kids. It was always my "health food"

And walking by all the tart fro-yo places is KILLING ME. I get sorbet when I can. I love the SoDelicious Coconut yogurt, but it's oh so processed and EXPENSIVE! I suppose if I could thicken up the regular coconut milk with a rice protein, that may calm the itch, but it's got to be EASY or I just won't do it. It's sad that I don't have enough time in my life to do this diet justice. I need a personal chef!!

Polly · Post by **Polly** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 8:32 am

Bass-o-matic! HAHAHAHAHA. Thanks for the laugh (and the memory)! My favorite SNL "commercial" was the floor cleaner that could double as a dessert topping. Does anyone else remember that?

Polly