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Robin And Lesley - Here Are Those Nail Photos :lol:

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OK, first off, remember that I said that my nails could be used in an ad - I didn't say anything about my hands. :lol: You'll need to click on each photo, to enlarge it, of course.

I found a couple of old photos from over 4 and 5 years ago, taken after I had been in remission for a couple of years, and my nails were already well on their way to recovery, also. I believe I posted at least some of these on the board, at the time, to show the arthritis damage to the fingers of my right hand, due to years of untreated gluten-sensitivity. These first two photos are from 3/15/2006. I wish I had photos from when they were at their worst, but if you click on the photos, to enlarge them, and strain your eyes, you can still see vertical lines on at least a couple of the nails:

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This photo is from 08/02/2007. Note how much better the nails are after an additional 17 months of healing. Obviously, they were no longer brittle at this point, and those are the hands of a farmer, not the hands of an office worker, so they are used to hard conditions. Actually, I took that photo to show someone that I was so busy that I hadn't had time to trim my nails, (the photo was taken during harvest time). Note that my fingers were/are not actually as short, fat, and stubby as they appear in this photo. That distortion is apparently caused by the camera angle and wide angle lens. Also, note that I do not manicure my nails - all I ever do is to clip them. They never see a file, or anything else of that sort, so please allow for that in your critique. :lol:

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Here's a current photo:

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OK, in this last image, note the bulge on the right side of the distal interphalangeal joint of the index finger on my right hand. Compare this with the first photos - obviously that bulge wasn't there on the earlier photos. Note also, how the distal phalange has decided to make a left turn, and it is also now twisted slightly clockwise, to match the distal distortion of the second finger. You can see that the nail on that index finger is oriented correctly on the first photo, but on the 2007 photo, it has already headed slightly left, but no swelling is obvious. :lol: My doc says this is due to osteoarthritis, and nothing to be concerned about. :shock: Only three fingers on the right hand are affected, as you can see - the left hand is unaffected.

IMO, the initial damage was due to gluten, and the current damage is due to casein. I can't tell by avoiding casein and then challenging my immune system, whether or not I'm sensitive to casein, (because I have no other symptoms, and trying to gauge by monitoring osteoarthritis symptoms is like trying to watch a tree grow - it takes forever), so I'm back eating casein again, in preparation for an Enterolab test.

One other observation that I consider interesting, but can't necessarily connect - I've had two TIA-like events, where my right hand became numb, and the paresthesia progressed up my arm to my shoulder, and then the right side of my face became numb, from right down the middle of my nose and tongue, over to my ear - nothing else was affected, and there was no significant loss of strength or motion. The routine was exactly the same, both times. Why is it always the right side that's affected, including the osteoarthritis? I have a hunch that it has something to do with gluten damage, but of course, I can't prove anything.

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Thanks, Tex! I find hands endlessly fascinating (and yours are mighty handsome :grin: ).

Very interesting about the gluten effect on the fingers. My mother had something similar. I am certain you are right.

I hadn't realized you were planning to test casein. I'll be interested to know what you learn. I am pretty sure I'm CF for life, but I do believe in the possibility that some of our non-gluten sensitivities might resolve. (I'm not sure why I think this, quite honestly... it's probably my last shred of denial about eggs.) But the possibility of a less-extreme reaction to getting 'dairied' on occasion is interesting, even if I never reinclude it intentionally in my diet.

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WOW Tex, Simply AMAZING! My nails have never ever looked like that (I wish). I am so JEALOUS! Even that photo where you didn't trim them, they need some nice nail polish on them!!!! LOL

As for your TIA's....I am sorry to hear you had them. However, the reason why everything happens on the right side is because of the blood flow. When the blood enter the left side is very oxygenated and goes through a filtering system in the center and leaves on the right side purified. When the blood is not purified in the center of the heart (which can be caused by medication, diet, stress, alcohol and smoking)! It comes out undeoxygenated (is that a word?) and as more carbon dioxide. Sort of like sludge! Slowly it will happen to the left side if care is not taken to put strength back into the heart by trying to eliminate the things that are destroying it. Its like the oil filter in your car. when the filter is not cared for(Like putting in low grade oil in your car) and the filter is not changed then the car won't work right. The oil becomes to thick like sludge. Its the same with your heart (which is a pump). Everything we put in our bodies gets into our blood stream and if it has a hard time filtering then we will produce slug! So your theory that gluten could have caused is probably right!

Thanks for the photos!

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If that ever happens again, I intend to check that out. Unfortunately, I didn't have an oximeter available for previous events - I've got one now.

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Your hands look INFINITELY better than mine do.
The osteoarthritic joints. My mom had those. Badly. Much worse than yours. She had joints in one hand and both her feet replaced about 24 years ago. She never had the other hand done, nor the hip replacement she needed.
I didn't do the gene test for gluten, but it's very probable she was reacting to it.

As for the left/right issue. The osteo on the right side - could be the result of the blood flow, as Robin described. Have you had any arterial flow tests? Are you sure there is no blockage anywhere?
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The more I read on this forum, the more I get this feeling of deja-vu! The earlier pics of your fingernails look just like mine. I never considered that they weren't normal. Are there other conditions that can cause the vertical lines and ridges? DH's are positively wavy.
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Cynthia, it's happened to me since the first day I found you all. It's a really weird feeling!
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Lesley wrote:As for the left/right issue. The osteo on the right side - could be the result of the blood flow, as Robin described. Have you had any arterial flow tests? Are you sure there is no blockage anywhere?
I've had MRI's of my head and neck done twice in the last few years, and an echocardiogram of my heart and carotid arteries. They showed nothing remarkable, balanced flow, with no significant plaque deposits, and no restrictions. I do recall a scan report mentioning atherosclerosis in my lower abdomen.

An oximeter typically shows a 98% oxigenation rate on both sides, (unless I check it immediately after waking up - it will usually be down around 94% then, but still the same on both sides.


Cynthia,

Ridging is claimed to be a normal sign of aging, and 10 years ago, I had significant ridging. I note that now that I'm 9 years older than I was when I adopted the GF diet, I no longer have the problem. :shock: That leads me to believe that gluten has a lot to do with it. IMO, it's even possible that nail ridging may be the only symptom of gluten-sensitivity that most people in the general population ever develop. (How's that for a radical conclusion. LOL).

Yes, there are supposedly all sorts of causes for various nail conditions, many of them related to vitamin or mineral deficiencies, illness, or injury, but I don't know enough about most of them to be a useful source of information.

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Lesley wrote:Cynthia, it's happened to me since the first day I found you all. It's a really weird feeling!
That's just one more reason why we consider ourselves to be a family - it's hereditary. :lol:

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:grin: You are right. You could be a nail model. :grin:

My nails have never looked that good!!

As for you hands, mine are a little better but no danger of getting an offer to model them.

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Hi Tex,

Wow you have an oximeter! I hope you never have to use for a TIA. But I am glad that you do have on and use it! I have no idea how old you are but to have 94-98 % oxygenated blood is amazing at any age! Wow! Do you work out or run everyday? Whats your secret please share that one?!

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Robin,

After the second TIA, I started wondering about what might be going on, especially since I've been short of breath, ever since my first abdominal surgery, (6 years ago, after which I suddenly had hypothyroid symptoms, even though my TSH was normal, but my Free T4 is always below range), so I decided I needed an oximeter, to see if it might help to figure out what was going on.

I had a bad problem with asthma when I was young, so I've never been able to run worth a hoot, so I've never done that. The only time I ever worked out was in a college gym class, and that was many, many moons ago. :lol: Up until the past year, I did a fair amount of hard physical labor, such as stacking 50 lb. bags of corn on pallets, (I have a corn-processing and bagging facility), but due to the prolonged drought in Texas, (and the sad economy), that business has just about dried up, so if it doesn't pick up next year, I may have to start working out. :sigh:

As Jack Benny used to always say, "I'm 39". :lol: Obviously, anyone who can remember Jack Benny is a lot older than 39. :grin: I'm 70, (but don't tell anyone - they might think I'm old. :lol:).

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Okay, for comparison, here's a pic of my nails:

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And here's my husband's:


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I'm 40, he's 43. His nails have looked this way for as long as I've known him.
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Hi Cynthia,

Your nails look pretty darn good, but you were right about your hubby's nails - those are definitely some ridged nails. I believe that ridging can be hereditary, so I wonder if it might run in his family. Vertical ridges can also be caused by things such as iron deficiency, and inadequate absorption of vitamins and nutrients. Certain health issues such as kidney problems can also be associated, but if he's had the condition for so many years, I doubt it's a serious health issue, or something would have surely shown up by now. Some people claim that vertical ridges can be an indication that someone is prone to the development of arthritis, but that may just be an old wives' tale.

Vertical lines or ridges seldom indicate a serious problem. Now if nails should change color, or develop horizontal lines, that's usually an indication that it's time to go see a doctor, because something is up.

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Maybe the association with vertical ridges and arthritis is gluten-related? In which case, no wonder it's hereditary! (And Tex, though you'd think something would have shown up by now, these kids are *young* :lol: - I was older when Dx with MC...)

Cynthia, here's hoping that your husband's health is *not* due for a bump in the road,

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