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Hi Sheila.

Its funny you made this thread! I decided to have a little chopped salad tonight! All it was chopped up romaine, cucumber with the seeds and skin removed, a couple of black olives and a little bit of avocado. Olive oil and red wine vinegar was the dressing. Well less than an hour later I was in the bathroom. So I guess salad is out for a least another 6 months. I am on 9mg. of Entocort so I thought it be okay for me to try I guess I was wrong. So be very careful when introducing salad.

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PS I do make shredded carrot salad with raisins and walnuts and the dressing is a little honey, it delicious and that doesn't bother me.
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I find that if something is going to bother me it does so in spite of the entocort (which I have now stopped).
So what I think is that if your reaction to one or more of those ingredients in salad was bothered your gut enough to successfully fight the entocort it probably means you won't be able to eat that ingredient when you are off it either.
Thing is, there were a number of ingredients in that salad, and you can't know what upset you.

I also have a tendency to try too many ingredients on one day, and then I can't figure out what caused D this time.
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Marcia wrote:Oh wait; I just remembered that I had to eat as much gluten as possible in August 2010 two weeks before I had a colonoscopy/endoscopy. At that time I had a biopsy that tested for gluten. I don't remember what the test was called but that was negative. I do know I got very uncomfortable eating all that gluten though. Ugh. Maybe the two weeks of gluten gorging wasn't long enough. The PA said it was. Why do I doubt that? :roll:
To confirm a celiac diagnosis by means of a small intestinal biopsy sample, you would have to have a Marsh score of at least 2, and there's no way that 2 weeks worth of gluten is going to cause enough damage to do that. Villus atrophy is a time-dependent process. To get a decent level of villus damage would take at least 4 to 6 months of eating gluten, IMO.

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Lesley,

I have eaten all those ingredients (except for the romaine) on separate occasions they never bothered me. So I know its the romaine. I will try again sometime in the future.
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Good that you know.

The bread came out very good. It actually tastes like bread. It didn't rise enough, but that was my fault. I used the wrong size pan, so it spread. That's enough to cause flattening of the air bubbles that make it rise. Still, it has a great flavor, and it screams for butter and cheese!
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[quote="Robin"][/quote]

Robin, the carrot salad sounds delicious; I really need to stop the regular salads, I think! Thanks for the idea. Guess it's time to dust off the food processor. :smile:
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Lesley wrote:Good that you know.

The bread came out very good. It actually tastes like bread. It didn't rise enough, but that was my fault. I used the wrong size pan, so it spread. That's enough to cause flattening of the air bubbles that make it rise. Still, it has a great flavor, and it screams for butter and cheese!
Lesley, are you talking about Dee's recipe?
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Tex, thanks for all your help. it sounds like I should just go ahead and do Enterolab test even though I'm on Entocort. I guess I should wait for when I have a greasy-looking floater. I still think there's fecal fat in there. But then it could also be a bit of diverticulitis causing a problem like that. I sure wish there was a fecal fat home test for instead of sending out apparently representative samples that winds up negative. Ugh.
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Lesley, what bread recipe are you talking about. I miss bread and would like to know what recipe you used.

Thank you.

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I think i will steer clear of the salads for a while, enjoying my stomach these days so why mess a good thing.
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This is the recipe:

http://glutenfreegoddess.blogspot.com/2 ... bread.html

Karina has a lot of great recipes. This one works for me because there are no ingredients I can't handle, and it worked. Doesn't look like hers yet, but I will get there.
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Lesley,

I'm so glad that you've found a bread recipe that works! Enjoy!

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Thanks Gloria.

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Regarding salads,

I'm presently eating two large plates of organic lettuce a day but here is how I got there. (I'm presently taking 1 entocourt every 5 days.)

During my flare for 3 months I ate only rotissierie chicken, rice cooked carrots and cooked green beans.

Once I got on Entocourt and started healing I made smoothies with blanched greens in them (i.e. partially cooked greens.) as well as other ingredients. I knew I needed a lot of vitamins after my long flare and I had a lot of frozen blanched kale, frozen blanched turnip greens, frozen blanched collard greens, frozen blanched rapini and frozen blanched brocolii in my freezer. I was tolerating the blanched --i.e. partially cooked greens in my smoothies so suspected I might be ok with lettuce.

If you decide to try lettuce start with extremely small portion and one type of lettuce only as a test. I had stepped down to one entocourt a day when I started testing lettuce.

I've found the following lettuce to be ok: butter, romaine, red romaine, spring mix, frisee and spinach. I get all of this thru my farmers market and it is 100% organic.

The only lettuce that I've had issues with has been arugala. I get "gurgling" with arugala.

I ALSO "DESTEM" ALL LETTUCE--particularly the spinach, frisee and spring mix and arugala.

I also recommend using olive oil (and not bottled dressings. ) I love balsamic vinegar but found early on I got "gurgling" with balsamic vinegar. So early on I topped my lettuce with olive oil and a squeeze of lemon juice. After about 6 weeks I was able to move to white wine vinegar and now I can tolerate balsamic vinegar.

At present I haven't moved on to other veggies on my salad.

My current salad is one that is common in nothern Italy. I have a plate of one type of lettuce. It is topped with about a 1/3 can of tuna. I generously apply a lot of olive oil and a little bit of lemon juice or one of the vinegars. This has helped me get some extra protein in my diet.

So if you decide to try lettuce move slowly but I find I tolerate lettuce much better than anything out of a box. i.e. gluten free products in a box cause gurgling for me.

Hope this helps. Brandy.
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Post by Gloria »

Great post, Brandy. This will be helpful to many on the board.

Hi Lesley,

Thank you for inquiring. I got back on Tuesday evening - with a cold :sickwithkleenex:, but not pneumonia, thankfully. I think the pneumonia vaccine booster shot probably helped. I wore a mask on the plane, squirted my nose all the time, used my atomizer, and took airborne before both flights. The only thing I didn't do was increase my vitamin D; I forgot my 3,000 IUs at home and only took 2,000 IUs a day, which may be why I got the cold. The inversion layer was pretty bad when we arrived - I couldn't even see the mountains.

Other than getting the cold, I had a good time. I'm pretty used to not eating what everyone else does for Christmas gatherings, as are most of us. I cheated a couple of times and had some olives, potato chips and coconut pudding and was no better or worse for doing so. That's not saying much of course, because I haven't been doing very well, so I enjoyed a little bit of different food a few times.

My daughter wants me to come again at the beginning of March for her daughter's birthday. I asked her what the weather would be like. I'm not anxious to go there anymore in the winter. She's talking Disneyland for next Christmas. I heard they stopped letting people in one day last week. I think it would be a madhouse at Christmas.

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