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I've had days like that, too, when the computer seemed to be dead set on making life as frustrating as possible, when it was already plenty frustrating enough to suit me. :sigh:

I hope you feel better later today.

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Trial and error... Last evening I baked chicken and made brown rice and mushy steamed fresh veggies. No seasoning, only small amount of olive oil to bake chicken. Bad night!

Used Schar GF, WF Anellini in today's chicken broth.

I worked at a veterinary clinic and one of the vets often recommended the client cook chicken breast, rice and green beans for dogs with severe health issues. She was previously an ICU RN.

FYI - Just heard on news that women in the south were less likely to be dx with Chrone's than those living in the north due to intake of vitamin D.

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Barbara, I don't remember. Can you eat chicken? I can't eat either chicken OR rice, so your dinner would have made me very ill. Do you what gave you a bad night?

I made all stocks totally without any additions. I can't do any poultry, but I make a pretty good beef stock with no additives. It's not hard to make, and is considerably better for you. I make a lot and freeze it. I flavor everything with it.
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Lesley,

I've been able to eat chicken in the past. Guess it could change. However, I feel better since the chicken soup today. I did dice the chicken into very small pieces. D into early morning and again as soon as I woke up.

I'll try the beef stock. Freezing it would be handy to have also. Good idea.

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Brenda,

The problem with the meal that was followed by a bad night was probably the steamed veggies. While we're still reacting, most of us can't handle many vegetables, because of the fiber, and the small servings that we can handle need to be overcooked, not just steamed, to make them easier to digest. The difference between brown and white rice is that white rice is brown rice with the hull removed. Most of the fiber is in the hull, and many of us can't tolerate brown rice because of that.

I hope you have a better night, after the chicken soup.

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Have you ever seen an explanation of how fiber promotes "regularity"? It does so by physically tearing the cells in the mucosal lining of the intestines. Fiber is definitely not our friend, while our gut is already hypersensitive from MC. I've copied part of one of my responses from a past thread, below:
Tex wrote:Fiber is almost universally recommended to "improve regularity". The problem is that it improves regularity by physically irritating the gut. Fiber actually tears the cells of the mucusa, prompting the production of mucus, which promotes motility through the gut. Whenever the gut is irritated or inflamed, it produces copious amounts of mucus, to coat the intestines, in a effort to protect itself from the source of the irritation, and all that extra mucus, promotes bowel movements, of course.

IMO, that's not necessarily a good thing at any time, let alone when the gut is already inflamed, because of MC. Anyway, this is why fiber is most definitely contraindicated for anyone with MC, who is trying to control their symptoms and allow their gut to heal. Here's a reference, if you doubt that fiber really affects the gut in this way.
Their results suggest that as these bulky foods make their way down the gastrointestinal tract, they run into cells, tearing them and freeing lubricating mucus within.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 093156.htm
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Tex, thanks for the fiber clarification, makes sense to me. Good, I enjoy white rice more than brown. I used to enjoy TV cooking shows. Now I flip the TV channel as fast as the cooking show flips my stomach. Ever notice how many times the person says the word "healthy" during the cooking demonstration? Although my cooking is appropriate for my diabetic mother, recent holidays were a fog. As much as I love them, I couldn't wait for family and friends to leave, return Mom to the nursing home and go to bed. My 19-yr old son, with a strong interest in fitness and nutrition, lives with me and is very supportive. He gave me a Yoga mat for Christmas and listens to things I'm learning from PP.

After yesterday's chicken soup, I later had an avacodo and tablespoon of Smart Balance All Natural Peanut Butter -- and a better night! Fewer morning body aches, clearer thinking and only one episode of D so far.
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Tex, thanks for reminding me that I can do the gene test any time I want to, not only in combination with other tests. :smile:

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Ooops! Spoke too soon :(
Slow down, breathe, back to chicken soup! :)

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Brenda,

Some of us have to limit the amount of avocado we eat. It's a good source of calories, (in the form of "good" fat), but avocados have a lot of fiber, also.

Of course, since you're still at an early stage in your recovery, you can expect to continue to react from time to time, for no apparent reason, just because it takes a while for our immune system to settle down, once it's riled up. We all go through that. Unfortunately, the road to recovery is not smooth for most of us - we take two steps forward, and occasionally fall back a step or two. As time goes on, though, the setbacks become fewer, and farther between, as our digestive system slowly heals.

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