Foods with casein?

Nancy · Post by **Nancy** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:21 pm

I guess I could eat some grains. Just not the gluten ones, wheat, oats, barley and rye. Since I never found cereals never stayed with me very long we switched to eggs long ago. But thanks, I will keep that in mind.

Post by **tex** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:00 pm

Nancy,

FWIW, home-raised eggs are less likely to cause a reaction than commercially-produced eggs, especially if the chickens are free range, and don't eat any wheat, oats, barley, rye, or soy, in their ration.

I agree, eggs and bacon stick with me 'til noon, or later, but I may run out of steam soon after mid-morning, with cereal for breakfast, unless I pig out on it.

Tex

brandy · Post by **brandy** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:15 pm

Hi Nancy,

I'm also enjoying uncured bacon for breakfast. Usually with something else. I think Zizzle turned me on to the uncured bacon.
Also....I thought I was soy free Oct 1. It wasnt until recently that I realized soy was sneaking into my diet in tuna, olive oil non stick spray and my vitamin D3 supplements.

Best wishes, Brandy

Nancy · Post by **Nancy** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:34 pm

OK, I checked my tuna and it has soy, and so does my D3 supplement in the form of soy oil. My spray on Pam is canola oil and soy lecithin. Is that lecithin a problem?

Post by **tex** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:14 pm

Yes, unfortunately, most of us who are sensitive to soy are also sensitive to soy lecithin. The "experts" claim that soy oil and soy lecithin should be perfectly for anyone with a soy allergy, but our experience on this board proves them wrong, (and we're not even allergic to soy - we're just intolerant of it).

Tex

Lesley · Post by **Lesley** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 7:01 pm

Brandy, I can't do eggs or grains (right now - Polly's instructions) so breakfast is a real pain. Potatoes and meat. What can I tell you?

Leah · Post by **Leah** » Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:31 pm

I agree. Eggs do stay with you much longer. I use to start my day with an egg, cheese, and toast combo. Now I put eggs into a corn tortilla. I sometimes do cereal and then just have a small snack 2 hours later.

For those of you who suffer fatigue, it probably is because you are eating practically no carbs. Speaking as a personal trainer, muscles want carbs as their energy source. It is the most easily stored and burned source of energy. Protein is used mostly to repair tissue. It stays with you because it takes longer to digest ( and also uses more calories to digest) So, if you can tolerate any kind of carbs, you should eat a little at each meal. It will help keep your energy up.

Nancy · Post by **Nancy** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:04 am

I do not like corn tortillas so maybe I'll have to eat my eggs with Fritos :)

Leah · Post by **Leah** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:11 am

funny Nancy :) But if you pan fry the tortilla in a little oil, it comes out like Fritos.

I want to be clear about carbs though. Many people think carbs only come from grains, but the best ones are the ones that come from veggies and fruit (cooked ones for us).

Post by **tex** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:10 am

Leah wrote:funny Nancy :) But if you pan fry the tortilla in a little oil, it comes out like Fritos.

I want to be clear about carbs though. Many people think carbs only come from grains, but the best ones are the ones that come from veggies and fruit (cooked ones for us).

You had me a bit concerned, yesterday, when you appeared to be promoting carbs, in general, but I'm glad to see that you've clarified that recommendation. Yes, I totally agree, paleo carbs are fine, and generally problem-free - it's the grain-based carbs that tend to cause health problems, especially when they make up a large percentage of the diet, (as per USDA recommendations).

I usually cook breakfast on a griddle, and I start with some bacon strips. After they're almost three-quarters done, (almost ready to turn), I add a couple of eggs, then turn the bacon. It doesn't take long before the eggs are ready to turn, (I don't care for runny yolks, so even though I don't cook them long enough to become tough, I do cook them through and through), and just before I turn the eggs, I throw a couple of corn tortillas onto some of the bacon grease, and then slide them to a dry spot on the grill, to allow them to warm. After I flip the eggs, I flip the tortillas, and about half a minute later, remove the tortillas, place an egg on each one, and place a couple of crisp bacon strips on top of each egg. After sprinkling liberally with Tabasco sauce, I fold 'em, or roll 'em, and eat 'em like a sandwich. They make a quick and easy breakfast, fit for a king, (or queen).

And, of course, rice tortillas can be substituted for corn tortillas, if desired. Doing it this way, everything is ready at the same time, and the eggs don't even have to be salted, because they get just the right amount of salt, (IMO), from the bacon.

As Leah points out, all you have to do is leave the tortillas a little longer, and they will be converted from tortillas into tacos, if you prefer them crispy, instead of flexible.

Tex

Nancy · Post by **Nancy** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:42 am

Fruit or tomato juice will be my carb of choice then and not the tortilla although the way you explained it there Tex, it does sound good :)

humbird753 · Post by **humbird753** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:57 am

Tex - that's a great breakfast idea. Tks.

Leah - thank you for educating those of us who don't know (like me) why carbs are important (the right ones for us, of course).

Nancy - Eggs and Fritos - cute :) I like that!

Paula

Leah · Post by **Leah** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 12:01 pm

Yes, I was just trying to explain that our muscles need some sort of carbs to get their energy easily. So if people are just eating protein ( not an energy source at all) and fat (a less accessible and efficient energy source), then they might feel more fatigued.

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