Great MAINSTREAM article about causes of gluten sensitivity!

Zizzle · Post by **Zizzle** » Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:37 am

I was amazed when I saw this today on Medscape (requires free subscription). It covers so many factors we've talked about here, and at least for me, explains the underlying causes of MC further.
Note this is the service DOCTORS are supposed to be learning from. Alas, they are finally admitting there is a gluten sensitivity epidemic.

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/757916_6

Post by **tex** » Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:37 pm

The main problem with that article is that they try to make it appear as a recent problem, (just like virtually all medical discussions of the issue). I suppose that's part of a community effort to save face, so that doctors won't have to feel guilty about ignoring the problem for thousands of years.

As you will see in my book, (if I ever get it finished), it's not a new problem at all - not by any stretch of the imagination. This problem has existed for 10,000 years, and there's plenty of archaeological evidence to substantiate it. Mankind made a grave mistake, 10,000 years ago, and doctors have simply been ignoring it, ever since, because no one is willing to admit the mistake.

The sad truth is, "the emperor has no clothes".

Tex

MBombardier · Post by **MBombardier** » Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:46 pm

Ya think?:shock:

A major problem for people with gluten sensitivity is that physicians using tests for celiac disease simply state that the client does not have celiac disease, leaving uniformed [sic] patients to fend for themselves. Symptoms continue, but the yet unanswered question remains: 'Are people with gluten sensitivity at risk for the same long-term, serious systematic side-effects of celiac disease?'

It is suggested that the debate on whether or not gluten sensitivity even exists is interfering with the very real need of it being recognized, treated and researched. It is time to recognize the numerous clinical cases of gluten sensitivities in adults and the need to formally confirm this through research. In addition, a renewed recognition needs to occur of the already medically established fact that a second bimodal wave of celiac disease can occur in adults, and not just in infants and children under 3 years of age with the classic symptoms of stunted growth, emaciation, anemia, pot-belly, diarrhea and foul smelling, pale stools. The failure to recognize that celiac disease can also occur later in life, results in a time to diagnosis that is often up to a decade. Is the same scenario occurring for patients with gluten sensitivity?

Polly · Post by **Polly** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:08 am

Thanks Z!

I read Medscape but hadn't seen this article yet. I was THRILLED to see it! I think lots of docs will see this. It really is comprehensive in terms of possible causes. Most of the ones that we regularly speculate about. Thanks for sharing. It gives me hope!

Hugs,

Polly

Lesley · Post by **Lesley** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 4:22 pm

I am going to email it to my doc. He says some people simply feel better on a gluten free diet, with no explanation for it. He needs to know there is one.

humbird753 · Post by **humbird753** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:29 pm

Z - This was very interesting.

I have learned a lot since coming to this forum, and find there is so much more to learn. This is very complex.

I look at my family health history and find no connection to my having MC. Are we really genetically predisposed to MC? It makes sense that environmental and gluten can cause MC and other autoimmune disorders, but I question whether genetics really play a role at all.

Just thoughts - learning...

Paula

Post by **tex** » Sun Apr 08, 2012 6:03 am

Paula wrote:but I question whether genetics really play a role at all.

IMO, when we are subjected to a certain mix of environmental conditions, long enough to exceed a certain personal tolerance threshold, our probability of developing an autoimmune disease becomes significant, and in that situation, our genes determine which autoimmune disease/s we will develop.

Tex

Polly · Post by **Polly** » Sun Apr 08, 2012 6:38 am

I would agree with Tex. Dr. Fine has identified certain genes that predispose to MC. One might have these genes and never develop MC. However, keep in mind that genes are not "passive" - they can be turned on, so to speak, by environmental factors such as infection, antibiotics, HRT, NSAIDs, etc.

Paula, are there other autoimmune diseases in your family? In my family, no one had MC (that I know of) but there is rheumatoid arthritis and Hashimoto's thyroiditis.

Love,

Polly

humbird753 · Post by **humbird753** » Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:12 am

Tex - Thank you. That does make sense.

Polly - No, there are no autoimmune diseases in my family. I guess that is why it is hard to find a connection from my family medical history. No arthritis, no thyroid, no skin issues, no diabetes, etc., but there may be something I don't know

Maybe it goes back further in the family line to ancestors I didn't even know.

I have read over the past months that if a person has LC/MC they typically would have another autoimmune disease. When I came here and told of my symptom of D, Tex stated that it sounded like I had "pure" MC with no satellite issues. I am assuming satellite issues refers to other autoimmune issues. Are there subtle ones?

Since being GF/DF/SF I have not yet seen "Norman," but my energy is coming back already.

Question - are there subtle autoimmune disorders that I may not be recognizing?

Paula

Post by **tex** » Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:54 am

I believe there are a few that don't always cause clinical symptoms. They are sometimes discovered because of certain test results, but I can't think of any examples, at the moment.

Tex

Zizzle · Post by **Zizzle** » Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:54 pm

Paula,
I have ZERO autoimmune diseases anywhere in my family. I am truly the first, which puzzles everyone, since I am one of the most health conscious ones. Most family members were extremely healthy until old age. My sister developed IBS (pain only) and granuloma annulare (skin rash), but that's it. Of course I had one grandma with unknown thyroid issues (she smoked her whole life which probably suppressed any autoimmunity). Another grandma complained that bread and pasta gave her indigestion. My mom has suffered with gastritis, anxiety and other issues since menopause. Hmmm...

Regarding other autoimmune diseases, I have none, although my bloodwork suggests otherwise. I've had raging high ANA and other autoantibodies for 7 years, but they haven't turned into anything (besides the MC and an occasional skin rash). By now my docs were expecting RA, Autoimmune Hepatitis, Mixed Connective Tissue Disease, Lupus, or something! But alas, maybe it's my good family genetics that prevent those genes from being triggered? Or the GF diet, since I have celiac genetics.

I do believe environment played a huge role in triggering genes that remained dormant for most of my family members. GI infections abroad, antibiotic use, vaccines, pregnancy hormones, and pollutants all had a hand in it.