Cheating on purpose

[Lilja]

Hi all,

My CC is under control now, I would say. Five years since diagnose, and the last three years on a strict diet.

I had invited my family over for dinner, and made bacalao with focaccia bread, sorbet and chocolate fondant for dessert. I decided that I would cheat, but not with both focaccia and dessert. I have never baked focaccia, so I was curious how successful it was. I had a slice of 5x5 cm.

Luckily, the reaction came after the guests had left. I nearly didn't reach the toilet!

It surprised me that the reaction was so prompt (4 hours after ingesting the bread), and that it didn't cause several trips to the toilet, just the one.

So, IMO this was some kind of an allergy reaction, not an immune reaction. Or, am I wrong?

Feeling great today though, and one experience richer



Lilia

[tex]

Hi Lilia,

No that's a typical MC reaction to gluten. The time can vary, but the most common timing seems to be from about 3 to 6 hours. Remember that it usually takes (depending on the type of food) roughly 2 hours for half the stomach contents to pass into the small intestine for a normal digestive system (this is for solid food — liquid stomach-emptying times are much shorter).

Many members here have reported having to run to the bathroom within 10 to 20 minutes after beginning to eat. That's an allergic reaction to something they ate. It's a reaction based on IgE antibodies. A reaction 3 hours after eating is usually due to an IgA-based reaction, and this is the type of reaction that results in an increase in the T cell numbers in the lining of the colon that is associated with MC.

The fact that you are still doing well, and only experienced a single episode of D indicates that your intestines were well-healed.

Tex

[Lilja]

Hi Lilia,

No that's a typical MC reaction to gluten. The time can vary, but the most common timing seems to be from about 3 to 6 hours. Remember that it usually takes (depending on the type of food) roughly 2 hours for half the stomach contents to pass into the small intestine for a normal digestive system (this is for solid food — liquid stomach-emptying times are much shorter).

Many members here have reported having to run to the bathroom within 10 to 20 minutes after beginning to eat. That's an allergic reaction to something they ate. It's a reaction based on IgE antibodies. A reaction 3 hours after eating is usually due to an IgA-based reaction, and this is the type of reaction that results in an increase in the T cell numbers in the lining of the colon that is associated with MC.

The fact that you are still doing well, and only experienced a single episode of D indicates that your intestines were well-healed.

Tex

Thank you, Tex for taking the time to explain the difference.

Lilia

[Gabes-Apg]

Yep
I would call that a MC reaction, as healing time went on, the time frame between eating and the short notice urgent MC mud poop got longer.
and the next BM would be close to normal.

[sonja]

Hi Lilja,

I'm curious: did you like the focaccia?
Was it worth eating it? And yes, are you going to do this again or was it just for once?
I ask this, because I didn't eat gluten since november 2013. I tried all kinds of gluten free bread and made many myself, but I dislike them terribly.
I would like so much a normal slice of bread, but what will it bring me?

Sonja

[Lilja]

Hi Lilja,

I'm curious: did you like the focaccia?
Was it worth eating it? And yes, are you going to do this again or was it just for once?
I ask this, because I didn't eat gluten since november 2013. I tried all kinds of gluten free bread and made many myself, but I dislike them terribly.
I would like so much a normal slice of bread, but what will it bring me?

Sonja

Hi Sonja,
The focaccia tasted very good, but it was not worth it, not at all. I will never cheat on purpose again. But, now I know what kind of reaction I can expect, so I'm wiser. And my GF lifestyle has gotten more meaning!

When I bake with so called "gluten free" flour, I get some hard cakes and hard bread, almost impossible to chew. I know I do something wrong, but I'm tired of testing out recipes on GF-baking.

I will much rather concentrate on what I can eat, instead of using energy on trying to continue to adapt cakes and bread to something I can tolerate. That is a kind of denial I'm not willing to go into

Lilia