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Eliminated all the sensitivity foods and feeling the same
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Eliminated all the sensitivity foods and feeling the same
Hi to all, I just ordered the Entocort test and eliminated all the foods that I resulted sensitive to and I'm still feeling pain, I have been on the same diet for 3 months with no success, I only eat: chicken, bacon, pork, tuna, vegetables, fruits and avoid gluten, potatoes, corn, rice, meat, oat, cashew, almonds and soy. Somebody help me please !!!!
Here's the problem with taking a calcium supplement: Our blood level (of calcium) gets too high for a while after taking it, and since calcium is an electrolyte, the body has to keep the level in the blood within a narrow range (if it gets too high, we can have a heart attack). So the body will remove the excess calcium in order to balance the level in the blood. It uses magnesium to remove the calcium, and it has to have adequate magnesium in order to do that. Taking vitamin D will cause much more calcium to be absorbed, so the body quickly runs out of magnesium.
The immune system has to be functioning properly in order to suppress inflammation anywhere in the body. It uses the active form of vitamin D to suppress inflammation. So the immune system has to have vitamin D (in the active form) in order to heal the intestines (or anything else), and the body has to have adequate magnesium in the cells in order to convert the vitamin D in our food and supplements into the active form so that the immune system can use it. I doubt that you can absorb enough magnesium through your skin to keep your immune system functioning properly.
I realize that your doctor may have told you to take a calcium supplement, but if he did, he's confused and doesn't understand how calcium, vitamin D, and magnesium work in the body. The truth is, virtually no one in the world needs to take a calcium supplement. If you are taking vitamin D, you will absorb plenty of calcium from your food, without taking a calcium supplement. In my opinion, you are magnesium deficient because of the calcium supplement, and that is preventing your immune system from function normally in order to suppress the inflammation.
That said, you might also just need more time to reach remission. Many of us require at least six months on the diet in order to reach remission, and some of us take over a year. Maybe someone else has some other suggestions.
Tex
The immune system has to be functioning properly in order to suppress inflammation anywhere in the body. It uses the active form of vitamin D to suppress inflammation. So the immune system has to have vitamin D (in the active form) in order to heal the intestines (or anything else), and the body has to have adequate magnesium in the cells in order to convert the vitamin D in our food and supplements into the active form so that the immune system can use it. I doubt that you can absorb enough magnesium through your skin to keep your immune system functioning properly.
I realize that your doctor may have told you to take a calcium supplement, but if he did, he's confused and doesn't understand how calcium, vitamin D, and magnesium work in the body. The truth is, virtually no one in the world needs to take a calcium supplement. If you are taking vitamin D, you will absorb plenty of calcium from your food, without taking a calcium supplement. In my opinion, you are magnesium deficient because of the calcium supplement, and that is preventing your immune system from function normally in order to suppress the inflammation.
That said, you might also just need more time to reach remission. Many of us require at least six months on the diet in order to reach remission, and some of us take over a year. Maybe someone else has some other suggestions.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
first of all, thanks for the time you take to answer all my questions Tex, you are a blessing for all of us here for sure!
I must understand based on your response that I need to stop taking calcium and vitamin D3 and keep the magnesium lotion? or do you recommend the magnesium in another form or presentation? I'm very respectful with my diet but I'm feeling no change at all on my pain level, what is your next recommendation Tex? Thanks in advance for all your help.
Blessings !
I must understand based on your response that I need to stop taking calcium and vitamin D3 and keep the magnesium lotion? or do you recommend the magnesium in another form or presentation? I'm very respectful with my diet but I'm feeling no change at all on my pain level, what is your next recommendation Tex? Thanks in advance for all your help.
Blessings !
If I were in that situation, I would stop taking the calcium, but continue taking the vitamin D (at least 2,000–3,000 IU per day). If you're out in the sun a lot, you might be able to skip the vitamin D. I would continue to use the magnesium lotion, and I would try taking 100–200 mg of magnesium glycinate. But don't take it if it makes the diarrhea worse. And stay on the diet. You should begin to see improvements soon.
Fruit can cause problems while we're still reacting, because we can't digest sugar very well when our intestines are inflamed. That could be causing your symptoms to continue.
Are you sure that you need to avoid potatoes, corn, rice, cashew, and almonds? What was your overall score on the 11 other antigenic foods?
Tex
Fruit can cause problems while we're still reacting, because we can't digest sugar very well when our intestines are inflamed. That could be causing your symptoms to continue.
Are you sure that you need to avoid potatoes, corn, rice, cashew, and almonds? What was your overall score on the 11 other antigenic foods?
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Tex could I use remag instead of the other supplement you are recommending? If yes how can I start to use it?
These are my EnteroLabs results:
Name: Benavides, Humberto
DOB: 4/23/1974
Quantitative Microscopic Fecal Fat Score Less than 300 Units (Normal Range is less than 300 Units)
Fecal Anti-gliadin IgA 50 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
Fecal Anti-casein (cow’s milk) IgA 14 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
Fecal Anti-ovalbumin (chicken egg) IgA 47 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
Fecal Anti-soy IgA 35 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
Mean Value 11 Antigenic Foods 21 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
While all of the foods tested can be immune-stimulating, the hierarchy of reactions detected were as follows:
Food to which there was no significant immunological reactivity: Food to which there was some immunological reactivity (1+): Food to which there was moderate immunological reactivity (2+): Food to which there was significant and/or the most immunological reactivity (3+):
Chicken
Pork
Tuna
Rice
Corn
Beef
White potato
Oat
Walnut
Almond
Cashew
None
Within each class of foods to which you displayed multiple reactions, the hierarchy of those reactions detected were as follows:
Grains:
Grain toward which you displayed the most immunologic reactivity: Oat
Grain toward which you displayed intermediate immunologic reactivity: Rice
Grain toward which you displayed the least immunologic reactivity: Corn
Meats:
Meat toward which you displayed the most immunologic reactivity: Beef
Nuts:
Nut toward which you displayed the most immunologic reactivity: Walnut
Nut toward which you displayed intermediate immunologic reactivity: Almond
Nut toward which you displayed the least immunologic reactivity: Cashew
Nightshades:
You displayed immunologic reactivity to white potato, the member of the nightshade family usually consumed most often and in greatest quantities. While this does not necessarily mean you would react to all other nightshade foods (tomatoes, peppers, eggplant), it is possible. In the realm of elimination diets for immunologic disorders, nightshades are usually eliminated as the entire food class (i.e., all four previously mentioned foods in this class). This is especially important to the clinical setting of arthritis.
These are my EnteroLabs results:
Name: Benavides, Humberto
DOB: 4/23/1974
Quantitative Microscopic Fecal Fat Score Less than 300 Units (Normal Range is less than 300 Units)
Fecal Anti-gliadin IgA 50 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
Fecal Anti-casein (cow’s milk) IgA 14 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
Fecal Anti-ovalbumin (chicken egg) IgA 47 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
Fecal Anti-soy IgA 35 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
Mean Value 11 Antigenic Foods 21 Units (Normal Range is less than 10 Units)
While all of the foods tested can be immune-stimulating, the hierarchy of reactions detected were as follows:
Food to which there was no significant immunological reactivity: Food to which there was some immunological reactivity (1+): Food to which there was moderate immunological reactivity (2+): Food to which there was significant and/or the most immunological reactivity (3+):
Chicken
Pork
Tuna
Rice
Corn
Beef
White potato
Oat
Walnut
Almond
Cashew
None
Within each class of foods to which you displayed multiple reactions, the hierarchy of those reactions detected were as follows:
Grains:
Grain toward which you displayed the most immunologic reactivity: Oat
Grain toward which you displayed intermediate immunologic reactivity: Rice
Grain toward which you displayed the least immunologic reactivity: Corn
Meats:
Meat toward which you displayed the most immunologic reactivity: Beef
Nuts:
Nut toward which you displayed the most immunologic reactivity: Walnut
Nut toward which you displayed intermediate immunologic reactivity: Almond
Nut toward which you displayed the least immunologic reactivity: Cashew
Nightshades:
You displayed immunologic reactivity to white potato, the member of the nightshade family usually consumed most often and in greatest quantities. While this does not necessarily mean you would react to all other nightshade foods (tomatoes, peppers, eggplant), it is possible. In the realm of elimination diets for immunologic disorders, nightshades are usually eliminated as the entire food class (i.e., all four previously mentioned foods in this class). This is especially important to the clinical setting of arthritis.
Remag is very concentrated, which makes it very potent. Personally, I'd be afraid to use it if I were still reacting, but you might be able to use it on your skin in place of the lotion. I've never used it, so I can't advise you on how to take it orally.
Looking at your EnteroLab results, you should be able to eat rice, corn, and potato if you rotate them so that you don't eat the same ones every day.
Tex
Looking at your EnteroLab results, you should be able to eat rice, corn, and potato if you rotate them so that you don't eat the same ones every day.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Hi Humberto,
Welcome!
Eliminate all fruits except for bananas.
Any veggies cooked have to be cooked to mush. Protein and rice or potato or sweet potato with
nominal overcooked veggie should help.
If you are struggling stick to lotion magnesium or epsom salt body baths or epsom salt foot baths only.
Oral magnesium can be problematic until we get to remission.
Go out in sun 20 minutes per day on lieu of oral vitamin D3 for awhile.
Are you taking any prescription meds? They can prevent remission.
Welcome!
Eliminate all fruits except for bananas.
Any veggies cooked have to be cooked to mush. Protein and rice or potato or sweet potato with
nominal overcooked veggie should help.
If you are struggling stick to lotion magnesium or epsom salt body baths or epsom salt foot baths only.
Oral magnesium can be problematic until we get to remission.
Go out in sun 20 minutes per day on lieu of oral vitamin D3 for awhile.
Are you taking any prescription meds? They can prevent remission.
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Thanks Tex
I am taking Magnesium supplements 500mg at night for my teeth and gut and 50mg of D3 in the morning. I get no sun because I'm light and burn. Plus I am taking calcium supplements. I did not know what you posted. I will not take calcium any longer. I learn something new every time I come on this post. Thanks, Tex!
After reading this I hope you are taking at least 5000units of VitD3 and breaking your dose of 500mg Magnesium into two servings such as breakfast and dinner.I am taking Magnesium supplements 500mg at night for my teeth and gut and 50mg of D3 in the morning. I get no sun because I'm light and burn. Plus I am taking calcium supplements. I did not know what you posted. I will not take calcium any longer. I learn something new every time I come on this post. Thanks, Tex!
500mg of Mag is quite a bit all at once for the liver to process and you may not be absorbing all of that by the time it goes thru the colon so you actually loose a lot of it in the urine and if that is the case you tax the kidneys something awful.
Please consider using a teaspoon of external magnesium lotion on your face, jaw and neck area and 250mg of your internal dose at night.[/quote]
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Hi Carol,
The Magnesium will absorb into the skin so it bypasses the intestines, and when you put it directly where an area needs it the most it has a better chance of relieving that area quicker. I will apply magnesium to my temples and face and neck if an when I feel a headache coming on, and I will do this 2-3 times in a day and sometimes for 3-4 days if needed and it helps a lot. If the calves are cramping or feet, then this is a great direct approach to get that magnesium to the source of pain. Epsom Salt baths with up to 2 cups of salts and soak in it for at minimum 20 minutes also is a great all over body magnesium bath.
For those with sensitive guts and are in the beginning stages of healing applying magnesium, I feel, works very well as long as enough is applied throughout the day. For most bottles that I have come across anywhere from 150-250mg is in a teaspoon of mag lotion. Just need to look at the directions and applying advice. There is a product called ReMag that is liquid and it can be put in water and drank, or put in a bottle and sprayed in lieu of lotion as well and it absorbed incredibly well too, and less is needed because it is so concentrated.
The Magnesium will absorb into the skin so it bypasses the intestines, and when you put it directly where an area needs it the most it has a better chance of relieving that area quicker. I will apply magnesium to my temples and face and neck if an when I feel a headache coming on, and I will do this 2-3 times in a day and sometimes for 3-4 days if needed and it helps a lot. If the calves are cramping or feet, then this is a great direct approach to get that magnesium to the source of pain. Epsom Salt baths with up to 2 cups of salts and soak in it for at minimum 20 minutes also is a great all over body magnesium bath.
For those with sensitive guts and are in the beginning stages of healing applying magnesium, I feel, works very well as long as enough is applied throughout the day. For most bottles that I have come across anywhere from 150-250mg is in a teaspoon of mag lotion. Just need to look at the directions and applying advice. There is a product called ReMag that is liquid and it can be put in water and drank, or put in a bottle and sprayed in lieu of lotion as well and it absorbed incredibly well too, and less is needed because it is so concentrated.
To Succeed you have to Believe in something with such a passion that it becomes a Reality - Anita Roddick
Dx LC April 2012 had symptoms since Aug 2007
Dx LC April 2012 had symptoms since Aug 2007