Need advice on how to advance diet or where to go

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Need advice on how to advance diet or where to go

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I am 48 years old and have been in a relapse for the past 2 years (Caused by a doctor insisting I do a liver detox) Previously was in remission for 10 years. It took me about a year to recover last time. I have been very strictly limited to a few foods for 10 months or more. I only eat turkey and chicken for meat Rarely beef I make my own bone broth every week and drink it every day. I can eat well cooked zucchini and broccoli. Sweet potatoes and well cooked apple. I do add a little avocado oil or olive oil to my food once cooked. Any ideas what other foods I can add back in? I’m in food prison here. If I eat this I go 💩 everyday and it has form and somewhat normal. I can see the food I have eaten however meaning green pieces etc so I know it’s not normal yet. I just don’t know where to go from here. I take magnesium and vitamin D every day. Levels are mid 50-60 on D I can’t tolerate any grains as I have hashinoto and grains flare that up terribly. Enterolab said ric and oats but I can’t with thyroid right now. My safest were chicken potato and walnut. Potato can make me feel awful too with blood sugar and thyroid. I love nuts but I’m terrified with my histamine issues. Ugh. Recently my doctor tested me with some stool test. It showed I had elevated calcoprotectin and low levels of good bacteria. I also have a bad bacteria strain She wants me to start either cipro or bactrim or herbs like olive leaf colloidal silver or Capryllic acid. Ugh. I react so badly to everything so I don’t want to do any of it frankly. Coconut oil causes awful scary chest pain for some reason How do you guys improve your gut flora and drive out the bad junk? I was hoping it would be better by now Anyway thank you so much for any input. You all have been such a blessing and the only way I managed to find remission years ago
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Protein is the key to healing, so be sure you're taking an plenty of protein. Make sure your chicken and turkey is not injected with anything, including "tenderizers" or Rosemary extract (regarding turkeys) additional safe proteins include lamb, goat, venison, duck, goose, pheasant, quail, rabbit, and most other wild meats. Shellfish should also be safe for most of us, unless we were allergic to them before we developed MC. Safe options should include mussels, clams, shrimp, prawns, oysters, crabs, lobsters, squid, etc.

Organ cleanses (colon, liver, etc.) are virtually never helpful for treating MC. Our gut microbiota is determined by our diet, and attempting to modify it with cleanses or antibiotics, or anything, other than diet, is pointless, because the balance of our gut population will always return to whatever our diet dictates. And when MC is active, so that digestion is incomplete, opportunistic bacteria will ferment the partially digested food, so that our microbiota will change back to our "dietary enabled microbiota", as we manage to bring the disease into remission, and our digestion returns to normal.

In essence, this means that we will never have the "normal" microbiota that we once had because our diet is permanently changed, and attempting to achieve a "normal" microbiota is pointless, because that will never happen as long as we are not eating a "normal" diet. Most doctors and dietitians don't understand that, so they waste a lot of time (and a lot of the patient's money) attempting to restore a "normal" microbiota.

Dark green vegetables that are high in oxalates can cause problems for some of us If our intake is too high. If potatoes are a problem, sweet potatoes or yams work for some of us. Cauliflower is another similar option that works for some of us.

MC cases that are refractive to careful diet changes are sometimes due to certain deficiencies such as vitamins B-12, or B-6. Deficiencies of these important B vitamins can prevent us from reaching remission, and these deficiencies sometimes occur because of long-term MC reactions. And about half of us have various methylation issues due to MTHFR gene mutations. For some of us, but that can cause methylation issues that prevent our body from properly converting the inactive forms of vitamins in food and supplements, into the active forms, so that our body can use them. Consequently, many of us take a product such as Thorne Laboratories Methyl Guard Plus, which provides the active forms of the important B vitamins.

Antibiotic treatments that attempt to target microbiota balance "imagined issues" open the door to an unnecessary risk of a C diff Infection. None of us need that, because it's worse than MC, and some cases even involve antibiotic resistant C diff bacteria, Which really amplify the problem by raising the risk of mortality. Please don't let your Dr. talk you into an inappropriate treatment.

If you're seeing firm stools, you're probably close to remission, and your diet either needs a little fine tuning, or something like active B-12 to eliminate a deficiency.

I hope this helps,

Tex
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It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
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Re: Need advice on how to advance diet or where to go

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Thank you so much Tex for your response. I just now found my previous post today so sorry it took so long to reply. MY diet is very protein based. My chicken is organic and those are the bones I use to make my bone broth. Turkey is organic and has no other ingredients. I have avoided shellfish as tuna was 4plus on my Enterolab test If you think that is safe I could try crab legs or something like that
I regret the cleanse immensely and frankly don’t trust doctors much anymore. They seem to make me worse instead of better. Have been told by 2 Doctors I am low in glutathione and to take that. But I don’t see anyone here taking that so I’m not sure I take b12 and methyfolate everyday Also a b complex that’s not methylated I can’t tolerate it. They just checked my b12 and folate and told me to cut it back as b12 is over 2000 and folate over 30. I have MTHFR heterozygous but am able to convert 40 percent. I do have MRR homozygous however I did try the methyguars last year but couldn’t tolerate it I eat sweet potatoes everyday and broccoli. I will try the cauliflower
My Dr just ordered Cipro for 14 days to treat this bad bacteria in my gut. And Pepsitol fiber She wanted me to take a Sibo test but it had lactulose in it so I refused. Ugh
Maybe I need to just try the low dose naltrexone. I was hoping and praying to achieve remission naturally but I would have thought I would have been there by now.
Thanks again for the input. I appreciate it more than you will ever know!!
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The Cipro will put the diarrhea into remission until after the treatment ends.

Tuna and shellfish have no relation (except that they both live in water). As I said, shellfish are safe for almost all of us (unless we were allergic to shellfish before we developed MC).

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