Bioresonance

[Catieu]

Hello everyone, I explain my experience with Bioresonance in case anyone is looking for information about this pseudo-scientific therapy.

I want to clarify that I have been on the elimination diet for more than a year without improvement. I have tried different medications and they have not worked either (there is an open thread where I explain everything I have tried, "I need your help please"). So, when I was suggested to visit this dr. it seemed to me that I had to try. She is an integrative digestologist who works with Bioresonance.

Here is a link where it explains what Bioresonance is.
https://www.helsana.ch/en/individuals/k ... hatgpt.com

After testing me with the machine, the interpretation of the dr. was that my digestive system was very weakened and that all external agents that could harm me are doing so. Slow viruses, bacteria, fungus, environmental toxins, food intolerances, reminiscent of Covid vaccines..... This part I believe, how could I not be debilitated with disease!!!!

The testing system is something else. I found it not very serious.

Your proposal is to detoxify my body of all these agents that harm me progressively. I have started with some ampoules that I have to take five days a week. I will tell you what they are below. And at the end of the month I will come back to be tested again. I will let you know if I notice any improvement and what the new test says when I go.

AMPOULES:
ENTHEROVITAL: Purified water, natural wormwood extract 0.1 ml (Artemisia absinthium L. aerial parts) (α+ β thujone content < 0.0003 mg), concentrated lemon juice, zinc bisglycinate 12.5 mg, preservative: potassium sorbate, stabilizer: xanthan gum.Active ingredients per 1 single-dose vial: zinc, 2.5 mg (25% NRV*).
SOLARVITAL: Purified water q.s. 5 ml, potassium carbonate 5 mg, sodium selenite 20 mcg. Active ingredients per 5 ml single dose vial: Selenium, 9.13 mcg (16.60 NRV*) Potassium, 2.83 mg (0.14 % NRV*).
*NRV: Nutrient Reference Value.

If anyone has experience or information about this therapy I encourage you to share it as well. Or simply share your opinion about it.

Thank you very much
A big hug

Marta

[Gabes-Apg]

I used this about 13 years ago and found it beneficial

I have used many functional approaches to try and understand what is going on in my body that mainstream testing does not assist with.

for me it was another piece of the jig saw puzzle that did assist me to optimise wellness

[Catieu]

Thank you very much Gabes for your reply.
It is encouraging for me that you tell me you found it beneficial.
I have no expectation that it will cure me and I can go back to my old life. But I do believe that it will be another grain of sand to contribute to have more wellness. I'll let you know....
A big hug
Marta

[Catieu]

Hello everyone,
I had my second appointment with the doctor.
I arrived without any improvement after trying the treatment she suggested. She tested me again with the machine. Although none of my symptoms had disappeared or improved, she said that, internally, there had been an improvement. The toxicity levels in my body had decreased.
Now she has suggested that I finish the first treatment and add ASEA, a drink that contains Redox molecules. She also recommended applying a cream from the same brand to my belly button.

Here you can read more about ASEA:
https://aseaglobal.org
I looked for information on the Internet and it doesn't paint a very good picture. There is a lot of doubt about its effectiveness.

He also gave me a chip that I have to wear on my skin for 30 days. It is like a flat battery that emits “bio-frequencies” or natural electromagnetic signals that supposedly help the body restore its energy balance.

I also have to take a vial of Quinton seawater. I have to rinse my mouth with it and then swallow it. And all the water I drink has to contain 3 grams of salt per liter of water. I'm afraid it will irritate my colon, but she said it won't.

She insists that there is plenty of room for improvement and that I will definitely get better. I don't know what to say. For now, I have placed my trust in her and will follow her recommendations without changing anything I am currently doing.

What do you think? Has anyone tried ASEA? Does anyone drink salt water?

Warm regards,

Marta

[jbrohlr]

I'm sorry Marta but this bioresonance thing sounds very suspicious. Also, the ENTHEROVITAL and SOLARVITAL products contain ingredients that would have me running to the bathroom the day after taking it (xanthan gum for example).

John R.

[Gabes-Apg]

John

when I researched it back in 2011 - bio resonance was (was and may still be) used by Nasa to assess those that travel to space to assess impact on the body.
because it focuses on nutrient requirements (no medications) there is limited acceptance by mainstream medicine and published articles about it.

our current health systems are controlled by big Pharma. drug for symptoms rather than treat root cause.
as I have seen over the my time on this group - in MC world everyone is different. What works for one may not work for another. What triggers inflammation can also be different
Any affordable assessment tool that can help a individual figure out what their body needs is worth trying.

For me back in 2014/2015 when I had multiple auto immune in flare - doing my full genetic profile, then getting information about my full methylation profile (30 gene SNP's) doing research on those I learnt about the Vitamin D receptor in the cell and the need for magnesium for the Vitamin D receptor to work properly was the game changer in my wellness journey.
I had good Vit D levels, but still had inflammation and issues. once I fixed that magnesium deficiency it was major turning point to improved wellness

[jbrohlr]

Gabes and Marta

There is legitimate research/treatment on the human body's electromagnetic fields. There is the practice of "grounding" that, IMO, can be an effective way to improve health. Same with red-light/infrared therapy. The problem with these therapies is that they are rife with hucksterism.

The electromagnetism and the red-light therapies are basically free - you can go barefoot on your lawn for grounding and use late afternoon sun for red-light. People can experience ill health from living too close to power lines - I have had a personal experience with that back in 1995 at my workplace. The solution to that is to get away from the electromagnetic source that is causing the problems. Also, there are studies showing that electromagnetic fields interrupt sleep - the recommendation is to distance your bed from electric appliances (alarm clock, smart phone, etc.). Once again, the solutions are free.

I believe that Marta's specific situation merits extreme skepticism. She goes back to that clinic with no improvement in symptoms, and they tell her that she is "improving internally". Why, if the present treatment is improving her health, do they need to add more products to her regimen? I believe that they are stringing her along.

If I were you Marta (and if I had the money), I would search for a legitimate functional medicine doctor. They will test for things that a GP does not normally test for, such as an RBC magnesium test, heavy metals test, etc.. Be careful though, the area of functional medicine has a lot of dishonest operators as well.

And you are right about pharma and mainstream medicine Gabes, big pharma is the biggest bad actor on the planet, but they are not the only bad actor out there, and we have to be vigilant at all times about treatments, ingredients, sources, claims, etc..

John R.

[Gabes-Apg]

my experience is that the improvements are so gradual that they are not necessarily noticeable over weeks.

it can take 3-6 months to see improvements

this is likewise for fixing nutrient deficiencies, it can take 3-6 months to resolve deficiencies.

[Catieu]

John and Gabes,
thank you very much for your comments. I really value them and take them into account; they make me reflect on the issue.
Like you, John, I am a bit skeptical about the treatment. And I am not expecting major results either. But I agree with Gabes that this kind of treatment usually takes quite some time before showing improvements, and you have to be willing to give it that time. When the doctor told me that there had been internal improvements, she was referring to the fact that the toxicity level in my body had decreased. Her intention is to try to restore my body’s natural balance. She is not prescribing anything specific for MC. Therefore, I think it is difficult to notice quick improvements in bowel movements in the short term.
My goal is to improve my overall health, have more energy, and in the long term, also improve MC, keep it more controlled, and reduce the number of bowel movements and the pain. I have not stopped doing anything I was doing before going to her practice. I continue to follow the strict diet, without skipping it even once. I consider this as an extra factor that can help me improve, along with strength exercise, meditation, grounding, as you mentioned… I don’t feel deceived, nor do I think she is a charlatan. I know people close to me who have improved their situation with her treatments. I believe she is a conventional doctor (a gastroenterologist) who, tired of not being able to fully help her patients, has sought out unconventional alternatives. She is truly convinced that in my case there is room for improvement. That’s why I have decided to give her a vote of confidence and continue with her treatment, for now.
Yesterday I started the new treatment with ASEA Redox molecules. I hope I tolerate it well. I am also drinking all my water with 2 grams of salt per liter and taking a vial of Quinton seawater.
I will keep you updated…

Thank you very much.
A big hug,
Marta

[Gabes-Apg]

Marta

my experience with these functional approaches, when our body is clearing toxins this tends to cause a change in our poop, which some may think that the treatment has made things worse.

one of my main triggers is stress / adrenalin. After a stressful day, the next day I wake feeling poorly and then will do 2-3 loose motions. Once this poop is out I then start to feel better. (generally by 9am).

the theory of 'better out than in' applies and having loose/additional motions is not always that things are worse.
Since having surgeries and radiation treatment for cancer I have been on a functional treatment journey to 'clear toxins' it has taken about 8 months

be patient and hope it brings long term benefits for you

[Catieu]

Thank you so much, Gabes. It’s really encouraging to read your comments.

I wouldn’t say I’ve gotten much worse. Things had already gone downhill before I started the treatment. What did happen at the beginning was that for a few days my stools were full of mucus, which wasn’t normal for me — but that’s passed now. I’m still the same otherwise: active diarrhea, no real improvement, just like before.

Where I have noticed a big change is in my energy. I feel stronger and don’t get tired so easily. I’ve managed to do things I hadn’t been able to do in two years. I’m on vacation and I even went paddle boarding! While I was out there paddling, I actually started crying from the emotion. Afterwards I could hardly walk, I was so dizzy and weak — but it was worth it. The next times were already better. I even went out at night two days. I still end up really tired after things like that, but I bounce back so much faster than before.

So just for that alone, I feel like it’s worth it.

A big hug

Marta

[Catieu]

Hello everyone,
Something has definitely changed. I feel better. I already mentioned that my energy levels had improved a lot. For now, they remain the same.
As for my bowel movements, they have also improved over the last few days. They are still far from normal, but they are on the right track. In terms of quantity, the number can vary greatly from one day to the next for no apparent reason.
I have had a couple of relapses during this time, but the recovery has been faster than before. I have to be careful because when I feel more energetic, I overdo things, and that's when the relapses happen, from what I've observed.
I am following the same treatment and have not strayed from the diet for a single day. My hope is that the improvement in my bowel movements will stabilize further and I will be able to start introducing new foods. After more than a year and a half of strict dieting, that would be very encouraging for me.
I will keep you posted...
Thank you very much.
A big hug,
Marta

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