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Have a question about the Vitamin D that you take.
Do you take the 3,000 IU's at the same time???
I take my B-12 & Folic Acid about mid morning, so can I take the D at the same time as those???
Sometimes it can get a little confusing with when to take, how to take, etc....
Thanks
Love
Dee~~~
Polly!!!!!
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Polly!!!!!
"What the heart gives away is never gone ... It is kept in the hearts of others."
Hiya Dee!
I take all the pills at the same time. I can't think of any reason why you couldn't take the vitamin D with your B-12 and folic acid. Here are some drugs, however, that may interfere with vitamin D absorption, as per the Center for Integrative Medicine at the U. of MD Medical Systems:
Interactions
If you are currently being treated with any of the following medications, you should not use vitamin D supplements without first talking to your healthcare provider.
Vitamin D levels may be increased by the following medications:
Estrogen : Hormone replacement therapy with estrogen appears to increase vitamin D levels in the blood; this may have a beneficial effect on calcium and bone metabolism. In addition, use of vitamin D supplements in conjunction with estrogen replacement therapy (ERT) increases bone mass more than ERT alone. However, this benefit may be lost with the addition of progesterone.
Isoniazid (INH) : INH, a medication used to treat tuberculosis, may raise blood levels of vitamin D.
Thiazide : Diuretics in this class (such as hydrochlorothiazide) increase the activity of vitamin D and can lead to inappropriately high calcium levels in the blood.
Vitamin D levels may be decreased, or its absorption may be reduced, by the following medications:
Antacids : Taking certain antacids for long periods of time may alter the levels, metabolism, and availability of vitamin D.
Calcium-channel blockers (such as verapamil): These medications are used to treat high blood pressure and heart conditions may decrease the production of vitamin D by the body.
Cholestyramine : This cholesterol-lowering medication, known as a bile acid sequestrant, interferes with the absorption of vitamin D (as well as other fat soluble vitamins).
Phenobarbital, phenytoin, and other anticonvulsant medications : These medications may accelerate the body's use of vitamin D.
Mineral oil also interferes with absorption.
In addition, Vitamin D may enhance the effects of doxorubicin , a medicine used to treat a variety of cancers. More research is needed.
Some clinicians recommend following calcium levels closely if vitamin D is taken with digoxin , a medication used to treat irregular heart rhythms. This is because vitamin D improves absorption of calcium. Calcium, in turn, can increase the likelihood of a toxic reaction from this medication.
Weight Loss Products - Orlistat, a medication used for weight loss and olestra, a substance added to certain food products, are both intended to bind to fat and prevent the absorption of fat and the associated calories. Because of their effects on fat, orlistat and olestra may also prevent the absorption of fat-soluble vitamins such as vitamin D. Given this concern and possibility, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) now requires that vitamin D and other fat soluble vitamins (namely, A, E, and K) be added to food products containing olestra. How well vitamin D from such food products is absorbed and used by the body is not clear. In addition, physicians who prescribe orlistat add a multivitamin with fat soluble vitamins to the regimen.
I know, I know......TMI! LOL!
Happy New Year!
Love,
Polly
P.S. Did you tell me that you can substitute canned pumpkin for eggs in baking? Would you please tell me the exchange values again? Thx.
I take all the pills at the same time. I can't think of any reason why you couldn't take the vitamin D with your B-12 and folic acid. Here are some drugs, however, that may interfere with vitamin D absorption, as per the Center for Integrative Medicine at the U. of MD Medical Systems:
Interactions
If you are currently being treated with any of the following medications, you should not use vitamin D supplements without first talking to your healthcare provider.
Vitamin D levels may be increased by the following medications:
Estrogen : Hormone replacement therapy with estrogen appears to increase vitamin D levels in the blood; this may have a beneficial effect on calcium and bone metabolism. In addition, use of vitamin D supplements in conjunction with estrogen replacement therapy (ERT) increases bone mass more than ERT alone. However, this benefit may be lost with the addition of progesterone.
Isoniazid (INH) : INH, a medication used to treat tuberculosis, may raise blood levels of vitamin D.
Thiazide : Diuretics in this class (such as hydrochlorothiazide) increase the activity of vitamin D and can lead to inappropriately high calcium levels in the blood.
Vitamin D levels may be decreased, or its absorption may be reduced, by the following medications:
Antacids : Taking certain antacids for long periods of time may alter the levels, metabolism, and availability of vitamin D.
Calcium-channel blockers (such as verapamil): These medications are used to treat high blood pressure and heart conditions may decrease the production of vitamin D by the body.
Cholestyramine : This cholesterol-lowering medication, known as a bile acid sequestrant, interferes with the absorption of vitamin D (as well as other fat soluble vitamins).
Phenobarbital, phenytoin, and other anticonvulsant medications : These medications may accelerate the body's use of vitamin D.
Mineral oil also interferes with absorption.
In addition, Vitamin D may enhance the effects of doxorubicin , a medicine used to treat a variety of cancers. More research is needed.
Some clinicians recommend following calcium levels closely if vitamin D is taken with digoxin , a medication used to treat irregular heart rhythms. This is because vitamin D improves absorption of calcium. Calcium, in turn, can increase the likelihood of a toxic reaction from this medication.
Weight Loss Products - Orlistat, a medication used for weight loss and olestra, a substance added to certain food products, are both intended to bind to fat and prevent the absorption of fat and the associated calories. Because of their effects on fat, orlistat and olestra may also prevent the absorption of fat-soluble vitamins such as vitamin D. Given this concern and possibility, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) now requires that vitamin D and other fat soluble vitamins (namely, A, E, and K) be added to food products containing olestra. How well vitamin D from such food products is absorbed and used by the body is not clear. In addition, physicians who prescribe orlistat add a multivitamin with fat soluble vitamins to the regimen.
I know, I know......TMI! LOL!
Happy New Year!
Love,
Polly
P.S. Did you tell me that you can substitute canned pumpkin for eggs in baking? Would you please tell me the exchange values again? Thx.
Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.
Here ya go:
1 egg = 1/4 cup canned pumpkin or squash
Polly, I take 0.25 mgs of Digoxin every morning for my PAT.
Do I have to be conccerned now with my Vitamin D???
Maybe I should not take any calcium, just the D???
I realllllly don't want to stop taking my vitamin D..
Love
Dee~~
1 egg = 1/4 cup canned pumpkin or squash
Polly, I take 0.25 mgs of Digoxin every morning for my PAT.
Do I have to be conccerned now with my Vitamin D???
Maybe I should not take any calcium, just the D???
I realllllly don't want to stop taking my vitamin D..
Love
Dee~~
"What the heart gives away is never gone ... It is kept in the hearts of others."
Oh! My! Gosh! Polly!!
I saw your post to Shirley about the dollar store whoopie cushions and the fake plastic teeth and I just cracked up
!!!!
Thanksgiving my sister, her son & my great neice came home from Michigan.
I had planned crafts for the little ones on Saturday, so we just had to make a trip to the dollar store.
Guess what we came home with???
2 whoopie cushions and 2 pairs of the teeth.
I swear my sister and I laughed until we cried because we would nonchalantly disappear and then come walking out into the kitchen!! The children, ages 10, 5, and 4 thought it was the funniest thing they had ever seen and those children using the whoopie cushions was hilarious!!! What Fun!!!
Love
Dee~~~~
I saw your post to Shirley about the dollar store whoopie cushions and the fake plastic teeth and I just cracked up
!!!!Thanksgiving my sister, her son & my great neice came home from Michigan.
I had planned crafts for the little ones on Saturday, so we just had to make a trip to the dollar store.
Guess what we came home with???
2 whoopie cushions and 2 pairs of the teeth.
I swear my sister and I laughed until we cried because we would nonchalantly disappear and then come walking out into the kitchen!! The children, ages 10, 5, and 4 thought it was the funniest thing they had ever seen and those children using the whoopie cushions was hilarious!!! What Fun!!!
Love
Dee~~~~
"What the heart gives away is never gone ... It is kept in the hearts of others."
HAHAHAHAHA, Dee!
Great minds................that's us! We definitely know how to have cheap fun. Who can resist laughing at a whoopee cushion? And those teeth?
Re the digoxin..............I'll bet you can guess what I'm gonna say.
I think it's best for you to check with your doc. You can most likely still take the vitamin D but may need to have your calcium level monitored until you know whether it is abnormally increased or not. If it stays normal, no problemo. Don't want to take any chances with the heart! Stopping supplemental calcium may not help - the vitamin D can still find plenty of calcium in the diet to absorb.
Thanks for the baking tip. Am gonna try some muffins (Namaste mix) and see what happens.
Love,
Polly
Great minds................that's us! We definitely know how to have cheap fun. Who can resist laughing at a whoopee cushion? And those teeth?
Re the digoxin..............I'll bet you can guess what I'm gonna say.
I think it's best for you to check with your doc. You can most likely still take the vitamin D but may need to have your calcium level monitored until you know whether it is abnormally increased or not. If it stays normal, no problemo. Don't want to take any chances with the heart! Stopping supplemental calcium may not help - the vitamin D can still find plenty of calcium in the diet to absorb.Thanks for the baking tip. Am gonna try some muffins (Namaste mix) and see what happens.
Love,
Polly
Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.
That's some good information, Polly.
I checked around, and found prices all over the map on the osteoporosis book. Is there a reason for the variation -- like hardback, spiral, paperback, etc.? Apparently some of the book stores can no longer get it new, but one offered to get me a used copy. Guess I was just in a hurry to get started on it, so thought perhaps I could pick one up close to here. They said that they used to carry it all the time. Anyway, why such a huge differential in prices? Some of the used ones were actually priced higher than some new ones I found. Have you ever had any problems with ordering online, as with identity theft? I'm almost afraid to buy one that's $11 something brand new when slightly used ones are priced for $74 or even $100 and something. I don't understand all this, do you?
Thanks for your help! Luce
I checked around, and found prices all over the map on the osteoporosis book. Is there a reason for the variation -- like hardback, spiral, paperback, etc.? Apparently some of the book stores can no longer get it new, but one offered to get me a used copy. Guess I was just in a hurry to get started on it, so thought perhaps I could pick one up close to here. They said that they used to carry it all the time. Anyway, why such a huge differential in prices? Some of the used ones were actually priced higher than some new ones I found. Have you ever had any problems with ordering online, as with identity theft? I'm almost afraid to buy one that's $11 something brand new when slightly used ones are priced for $74 or even $100 and something. I don't understand all this, do you?
Thanks for your help! Luce
Hi Luce!
I have found the same variation with prices, especially at amazon.com. If it's for a gift, I usually order new or like new, but often for me I order used. And some of the used seem brand new and are lots cheaper. I think the spiral one is a good idea because it will lie open and flat on the page you want while you are one the floor trying to learn the exercise.
I have never had a problem with online buying, luckily.
Love,
Polly
I have found the same variation with prices, especially at amazon.com. If it's for a gift, I usually order new or like new, but often for me I order used. And some of the used seem brand new and are lots cheaper. I think the spiral one is a good idea because it will lie open and flat on the page you want while you are one the floor trying to learn the exercise.
I have never had a problem with online buying, luckily.
Love,
Polly
Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.
Polly,
Thought this might help knowing.
I had my blood workup on Oct. 31st of this year.
My calcium serum was 9.8 Notmal range - 8.5-10.6 mg/dL
I have been taking calcium for about 2 years now with no ill effects.
My Vitamin D level was 30 Normal range 32.0-111.0 (Low) ng/mL
My PCP recommended doubling my Vitamin D...
My B-12 was 298 Normal range- 211-911 (Low) pg/mL
My Folic Acid was 11.4 I don't know what the normal range should be ... ng/mL >5.4
Indeterminate: 3.4-5.4
Deficient: <3.4
Love
Dee~~
Thought this might help knowing.
I had my blood workup on Oct. 31st of this year.
My calcium serum was 9.8 Notmal range - 8.5-10.6 mg/dL
I have been taking calcium for about 2 years now with no ill effects.
My Vitamin D level was 30 Normal range 32.0-111.0 (Low) ng/mL
My PCP recommended doubling my Vitamin D...
My B-12 was 298 Normal range- 211-911 (Low) pg/mL
My Folic Acid was 11.4 I don't know what the normal range should be ... ng/mL >5.4
Indeterminate: 3.4-5.4
Deficient: <3.4
Love
Dee~~
"What the heart gives away is never gone ... It is kept in the hearts of others."
Hi Dee,
You didn't mention the units of measurement, and I believe that it's somewhat age and gender specific, but your serum folate reading doesn't appear to be low. A quick search shows the normal range to be 2.7 - 17.0 ng/mL (nanograms per milliliter).
Love,
Tex
You didn't mention the units of measurement, and I believe that it's somewhat age and gender specific, but your serum folate reading doesn't appear to be low. A quick search shows the normal range to be 2.7 - 17.0 ng/mL (nanograms per milliliter).
Love,
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Dee,
As I understand it, you just need to be sure that you have at least a minimum of somewhere around 400 IU of folic acid in your daily diet, in order to be able to utilize the B-12 effectively. More won't hurt, as long as you don't overdo it and end up with way over, say, 1500 IUs, or so.
A lot of commercial products are "enriched" with folic acid these days, so most people in the general population in this country probably get plenty without additional supplemention, but to be honest, I've never really paid any attention to GF products, and GF flours, etc., so I'm not sure if any/all of them are enriched, or not. I know that leafy green vegetables and orange juice, for example contain folate.
Most mainstream breakfast cereals are enriched with folic acid, for example, but when I look at the label on my organic, gluten-free corn flakes, I don't even see it listed at any level. Rice Chex, on the other hand, (since it's a mainstream product), contains 50% of the RDA of folic acid.
Probably, if you're shooting for relatively large doses of B-12, it might be a good idea to make sure that you are ingesting around 800 IU or so of folic acid per day, so that you don't come up short. I note that the 1,000 IU sublingual B-12 tablets, that I have left over from when I still had a malabsorption problem, come with 400 IU of folic acid already included in each tablet/lozenge. What I don't like about them is the fact that so many of these sublingual tablets contain sorbitol - in fact, they're really sort of sugar lozenges, with added B-12. While I've been known to get D from significant amounts of sorbitol, I've never noticed a problem resulting from using those B-12 lozenges.
Love,
Tex
As I understand it, you just need to be sure that you have at least a minimum of somewhere around 400 IU of folic acid in your daily diet, in order to be able to utilize the B-12 effectively. More won't hurt, as long as you don't overdo it and end up with way over, say, 1500 IUs, or so.
A lot of commercial products are "enriched" with folic acid these days, so most people in the general population in this country probably get plenty without additional supplemention, but to be honest, I've never really paid any attention to GF products, and GF flours, etc., so I'm not sure if any/all of them are enriched, or not. I know that leafy green vegetables and orange juice, for example contain folate.
Most mainstream breakfast cereals are enriched with folic acid, for example, but when I look at the label on my organic, gluten-free corn flakes, I don't even see it listed at any level. Rice Chex, on the other hand, (since it's a mainstream product), contains 50% of the RDA of folic acid.
Probably, if you're shooting for relatively large doses of B-12, it might be a good idea to make sure that you are ingesting around 800 IU or so of folic acid per day, so that you don't come up short. I note that the 1,000 IU sublingual B-12 tablets, that I have left over from when I still had a malabsorption problem, come with 400 IU of folic acid already included in each tablet/lozenge. What I don't like about them is the fact that so many of these sublingual tablets contain sorbitol - in fact, they're really sort of sugar lozenges, with added B-12. While I've been known to get D from significant amounts of sorbitol, I've never noticed a problem resulting from using those B-12 lozenges.
Love,
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
My B-12 doesn't have any folic acid in it so I take a 400 IU of folic acid when I take the B-12.
I really don't understand where I am as far as the level with my blood work for the folic acid.
I always thought that you had to combine the 2 for the B-12 to be beneficial..
Love
Dee~~
I really don't understand where I am as far as the level with my blood work for the folic acid.
I always thought that you had to combine the 2 for the B-12 to be beneficial..
Love
Dee~~
"What the heart gives away is never gone ... It is kept in the hearts of others."
Well, they both need to be present concurrently, so if there's any question about the folic acid availability, it's probably best to take some with the B-12. Just don't take folic acid without B-12, because excess amounts of folic acid can mask a B-12 deficiency, (if one exists).
Love,
Tex
Love,
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.