Reply From Heinz Re: Lea & Perrins Worcestershire Sauce

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Gloria,
I will be surprised if your reactions to minute accidental ingestions of "allergens" are more than slight once you are off of Entecort, since you apparently have studied the diet well by now, and strictly maintained it to your knowledge level at this point.

For me, they just serve as a warning to not eat something or somewhere again. I almost never have them anymore, and I don't worry when I do. It won't set you back, I don't think.

Of course, you are still in the early stages of treatment, if I'm not mistaken.
I am rather irregular in reading posts due to my personal situation, but I do try to post when I can, so hope I'm not assuming what isn't true about your treatment.
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Hi Luce,

Actually, Gloria has been pursuing her treatment for about a year and a half, now. This thread contains a lot of her history, starting when she tried to wean off Entocort, over 15 months ago. Her case has been a very difficult one, due to the fact that she has double DQ1 genes. IOW, for about a year, it was extremely difficult for her to achieve/maintain remission, even though she was taking Entocort, and following a very strict multi-intolerance diet.

http://www.perskyfarms.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=6730

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Yes, Tex is correct. Right now I've decided to maintain using one Entocort per day. I'm hoping that given enough time on the Entocort, my gut will heal enough that I'll be able to go off of it without worrying about things like grape juice, lettuce, orange juice, green peppers, etc. - things that are probably not intolerances, but irritants to a raw gut.

It's just been too difficult to determine which foods are irritants and which are intolerances. The list of foods I've eliminated in my quest is getting very long and I don't see any improvement as a result of eliminating any one food. I've probably been in too big of a hurry to get off of Entocort, so I'm content to stay on 3 mg/day for now. I have Normans and solid BMs every day without any hint of D, so I can't complain.

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I found this old thread on a search. I made a roast beef yesterday, and included Worcestershire Sauce in the marinade. I had a bad reaction and wondered if it was from the worscestershire. Based on this, I'm guessing that wasn't my problem, but now I can't figure out what else it could have been. :???:
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Karen,

You didn't by any chance use a bottle of Worchestershire sauce from the UK, did you?
In the USA a bottle of Worcestershire sauce contains: vinegar, molasses, high fructose corn syrup, anchovies, water, onions, salt, garlic, tamarind concentrate, cloves, natural flavorings and chilli pepper extract.

In the UK a bottle of Worcestershire sauce contains: malt vinegar (from barley), spirit vinegar, molasses, sugar, salt, anchovies, tamarind extract, onions, garlic, spice and flavouring.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_are_Worc ... ngredients

But look at this quote from the article at the link below:

After more than 170 years, the original recipe for Lea and Perrins Worcestershire Sauce has been revealed.

It was found in notes dating from the mid-1800s that were dumped in a skip by the sauce factory.

Brian Keogh, a former Lea and Perrins accountant, discovered the notes, which were neatly written in sepia ink in two leather-bound folios, and rescued them.

Today, the label on bottles of the sauce lists vinegar, molasses, sugar, salt, anchovies, tamarind extract, onions and garlic. But it doesn't reveal the identity of other key ingredients, merely adding 'spice' and 'flavouring'.

Mr Keogh's documents reveal that these could include cloves, soy sauce, lemons, pickles and peppers. Until now, the all-important ratios of the ingredients have also remained a mystery.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/food/ ... -skip.html

The red emphasis is mine, of course. After 170 years, it's difficult to say how or if they may have modified the recipe over the years. At any rate, since ingredients seem to vary by country, (which is true of most foods sold internationally), anything is possible, and mix-ups can occur.

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Wow, interesting! Mine is from the US, so the vinegar shouldn't be an issue. I suspected soy was hidden in there somewhere in the "natural flavorings" but I see according to Heinz there is no soy. :???: So, I don't really know, but I think I'll be skipping it in my food from now on!
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I found that back when I was recovering, any product that contained more than 5 or 6 ingredients, almost always caused problems. I have no idea why, but obviously as the number of ingredients increases, the statistical probably of contamination, or cross-contamination, increases at an accelerated rate. Thus my rule of thumb - any processed food with more than 5 ingredients is highly suspicious, regardless of what the label shows.

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