Another GI on the NO-GO List

kate_ce1995 · Post by **kate_ce1995** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 2:46 pm

Well, they actually got me into the GI sooner than a month. But I'm not sick. I have a "nuisance".

He doesn't believe in MC (WE (that collective GI world) don't know how to treat it like we know how to treat UC and Chron's).

So you're gluten free, well we can't test for celiac if you're gluten free. I say, what difference would it make? He says, it would be nice to know. telling that I'm irritated, "but it wouldn't change anything and if being gf makes you feel better then by all means".

What about other food sensitivities? Well, we don't have any way to figure that out, so it could take months of trial and error.

How come the vancomycin worked for the staph. Don't know where that came from, it's not a pathology associated with the bowel.

Then how come the vanco worked? Well, you could have small intestine bacterial overgrowth and it might have attacked some of that. Some people take antibiotics for it, some take probiotics for it.

Anyway, he doesn't feel a need to rush into any tests...almost as an after thought he listened to my gut and tapped on it. After all, I'm not sick.

I've been dairy and soy free for 2 days now. I'm going to give that 2 weeks and see where it takes me.

Katy

JLH · Post by **JLH** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 2:53 pm

He doesn't believe in MC?????????

Good luck. I hope it works for you.

annie oakley · Post by **annie oakley** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:11 pm

He doesn't believe In MC???????? Boy would I like to have a flare in his office, He and the nurses would be cleaning for a month!!!!!!

I am sorry you got a person who is thick. They aren't all that way. The trouble is locating the Great ones.
:tigerpoobearhug:

Love Oma

Post by **tex** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 4:02 pm

Katy ,

Well, of course I'm very disappointed, but I suppose I can't really say that I'm surprised. <sigh>

Katy wrote:He doesn't believe in MC (WE (that collective GI world) don't know how to treat it like we know how to treat UC and Chron's).

You know, now that I think about that a bit, it's suddenly obvious that they don't actually know how to treat UC and Crohn's, either, so it's no wonder that they don't know how to treat MC. They've been "dealing with" UC and Crohn's for many, many years now, but look at how many of their patients repeatedly find themselves in the operating room, having progressively more and more of their intestines removed. Obviously, GI docs don't know how to treat any of the IBDs, IMO.

Katy wrote:How come the vancomycin worked for the staph. Don't know where that came from, it's not a pathology associated with the bowel.

Apparently he's never heard of food poisoning. Actually intestinal staph infections are rather common, and as we all know, they're often associated with a wide range of foods, including meat products, poultry and egg products, salads (such as egg, tuna, potato and macaroni), cream-filled bakery products and pies, sandwich fillings, and milk and dairy products, etc. In general, Staph poisoning often occurs when a food has been handled a great deal (such as the chopping and handling involved in making a salad or sandwich), so that staph germs on the skin have an opportunity to become introduced, and it's then left without refrigeration, which allows the bacteria to multiply. Sneezing on the food would be another source of infection, obviously, since carriers almost always have populations of staph germs in their nose. The thing is, in these types of situations, recovery usually occurs within two to three days, without treatment. I can't help but wonder, though, if there might be some species that are an exception to that rule, so that they might be capable of establishing a self-perpetuating population. Most food poisoning cases, of course, are also accompanied by nausea and vomiting, but I'm not sure if the nausea/vomiting would be an essential part of the presentation of a chronic intestinal staph infection, (if a chronic infection is even possible).

Here's hoping that the diet changes work.

Tex

Courtney · Post by **Courtney** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:49 pm

Aargh!! I hate doctors. I know that is an unfair generalization, and if one of my students used it in a paper, they would get a metaphorical slap on the wrist, but honestly. He doesn't "believe" in it or he doesn't know how to treat it?!! I am sick of doctors trying to make us feel guilty for having something they don't know how to treat. Maybe if they would just get off their high horses and admit they don't already know everything, they'd have a chance of learning something! I was misdiagnosed multiple times before one doc finally did a biopsy and figured out what was wrong with me. It's very sad that one has to go to school for so many years to learn to be such a close-minded idiot.

I'm reminded of Dolly Parton's (think it was her) statement, "It takes a lot of money to look this cheap."

Post by **tex** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 7:38 pm

It's true, of course, that's an unfair generalization, but it sure seems to fit a lot of the GI docs that we encounter.

Courtney wrote:It's very sad that one has to go to school for so many years to learn to be such a close-minded idiot. :Twisted Evil:

Awesome line! Thanks for a great laugh. The tears are still running down my cheeks.

I've always liked Dolly's sense of humor, too - she comes up with some good ones, now and then.

Tex

G'ma Mary · Post by **G'ma Mary** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:25 pm

May I be another to ask "He doesn't believe in MC??????"

How can he be so bold as to charge a fee for that piece of stupidity?

I'm just beyond words -

G'ma Mary

starfire · Post by **starfire** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 5:24 am

to that idiot!!!

angy · Post by **angy** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 6:37 am

sound like my asswipe... gi doc...(exscuse the language)...totally unsupportive and unhelpful....god how frustrating...

im thinkng of getting another refrral for a dfferent doc. I will be seeing hm in march and im going to make my decision after that appointment.

He doesnt believe in mc what a jerk!!! how did he get qualified? or is he living in the middle ages..?

MaggieRedwings · Post by **MaggieRedwings** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 7:20 am

They absolutely never cease to amaze me.

My GI - who I think I have in my mind "fired" - told me last time when I said no more colonoscopies that he would do the pill cam and then let me know if I still have MC. My question is this - does a pill cam do biopsies? Without a biopsy how would he know? I was just so fed up with him that I didn't even ask. Just walked out. Loved him for years but after getting all of my doctor's records for my new PCP, I read his notes on me and was way less than impressed. Said that GF was a waste, internet research was an influence on my bad decisions, etc. That was enough for me.

Love, Maggie

JLH · Post by **JLH** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:24 am

Hmm. He seems to know it all.

A perfect example of why GI's have such a lousy reputation on this forum. SORRY.

Now I get to fight with my internal med/endocrinologist on Monday. I should have gotten a note from my GI!

Courtney · Post by **Courtney** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:20 pm

Glad you got a laugh out of it, Tex! I second Oma's idea about paying a little visit to this guy's office...

Courtney

Gloria · Post by **Gloria** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:40 pm

I think we should bottle up the "evidence" that we have MC and send it to him. Doesn't he read medical journals or even the Mayo Clinic website? What a jerk!!

Gloria