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Sorry Everyone:
I have been dealing with a flare since Tuesday. Yesterday was the first day that I actually felt like human without any pain, cramping or D.
When we did our monthly shopping on the 3rd my loving hubby; David who truly does love me and meant NO HARM bought me some Rice Chex Cereal. I did not try any until Tuesday and OMG! was that a mistake in a major way.
Tex? What in the heck is in Rice Chex Cereal that would cause such a flare. After receiving an e-mail from Joan she mentioned that you had a bad experience with this cereal.
I ate a little over half the bowl and suddenly I was in pain! Had pain, cramping and was suddenly running to the bathroom with a water stool that just run right out of me.
I was doing so well. My stool had been a normal consistancy until I ate the DAMN Rice Chex Cereal! Is there something in the preservatives or is it some there another grain besides rice in this cereal?
Yesterday was the first day that I felt decent and today I'm finally feeling that I just may make it through the day with out pain or D.
It's very disheartening when all of a sudden you find yourself curled into a ball and all you want to do is sleep and take pain med's because the pain is so bad.
Joan mentioned that at one time you posted something about Chex Cereal that I must have missed. If you could inlighten me I would appreciate it.
Love and God Bless:
Jodi
P.S. I know things would be much easier if I could financially afford to do the Enterlobe testing but right now David and I just are unable to handle the cost of those test. I was doing quite well sticking to the gf but I didn't realize the dangers that were hidden in this cereal.
"NEVER" will I "EVER" put Rice Chex Cere
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"NEVER" will I "EVER" put Rice Chex Cere
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Hi Jodi,
I'm sorry to hear that you had such a severe reaction to Rice Chex. I have to admit that I'm pretty much baffled by the way some people react to it, while others have no problems, and some, like me, have varying responses. You seem to have had an allergic reaction to something in the cereal, based on your symptoms, (especially the pain). The few major ingredients in Rice Chex appear to be quite safe, so your reaction was probably due to either a preservative, or one of the many added minerals and vitamins.
The only preservative that I can see in Rice Chex is BHT, (butylated hydroxytoluene), which is found in many processed foods, and is normally used to prevent the spoilage of fats and oils. The chemical is suspected of causing skin reactions, (both epidermal, and sub-epidermal), in some people. Though legal in the U. S., BHT has been banned in England, due to being associated with liver and kidney damage, behavioral problems, infertility, weakened immune systems, birth defects and cancer. None of those claims would tend to cause immediate pain and cramps in the GI system, however.
Iron is a possibility. Rice Chex apparently contains a significant amount of added iron, and for someone who already has excess iron in their system, additional iron can cause an iron overload, resulting in symptoms such as abdominal discomfort, lethargy, and fatigue. Iron overload can result in substantial tissue damage to vital organs, including the heart and liver, and it is an easily overlooked risk, because early stages are typically marked by nonspecific symptoms.
Ascorbic acid, (or a derivative of it), in the form of vitamin C is added, but that is almost surely made from corn, in this country. I don't see anything else on the label that would be likely to be a risk.
Here is a listing of previous posts that I have made about Rice Chex, in the order in which they were posted:
http://www.perskyfarms.com/phpBB2/viewt ... =rice+chex
http://www.perskyfarms.com/phpBB2/viewt ... =rice+chex
http://www.perskyfarms.com/phpBB2/viewt ... =rice+chex
http://www.perskyfarms.com/phpBB2/viewt ... =rice+chex
http://www.perskyfarms.com/phpBB2/viewt ... =rice+chex
I ate a bowlful of Rice Chex a couple of hours ago. So far, outside of a little bloating, I haven't been able to detect any symptoms. If anything else develops, I'll add a post about it.
Love,
tex
I'm sorry to hear that you had such a severe reaction to Rice Chex. I have to admit that I'm pretty much baffled by the way some people react to it, while others have no problems, and some, like me, have varying responses. You seem to have had an allergic reaction to something in the cereal, based on your symptoms, (especially the pain). The few major ingredients in Rice Chex appear to be quite safe, so your reaction was probably due to either a preservative, or one of the many added minerals and vitamins.
The only preservative that I can see in Rice Chex is BHT, (butylated hydroxytoluene), which is found in many processed foods, and is normally used to prevent the spoilage of fats and oils. The chemical is suspected of causing skin reactions, (both epidermal, and sub-epidermal), in some people. Though legal in the U. S., BHT has been banned in England, due to being associated with liver and kidney damage, behavioral problems, infertility, weakened immune systems, birth defects and cancer. None of those claims would tend to cause immediate pain and cramps in the GI system, however.
Iron is a possibility. Rice Chex apparently contains a significant amount of added iron, and for someone who already has excess iron in their system, additional iron can cause an iron overload, resulting in symptoms such as abdominal discomfort, lethargy, and fatigue. Iron overload can result in substantial tissue damage to vital organs, including the heart and liver, and it is an easily overlooked risk, because early stages are typically marked by nonspecific symptoms.
Ascorbic acid, (or a derivative of it), in the form of vitamin C is added, but that is almost surely made from corn, in this country. I don't see anything else on the label that would be likely to be a risk.
Here is a listing of previous posts that I have made about Rice Chex, in the order in which they were posted:
http://www.perskyfarms.com/phpBB2/viewt ... =rice+chex
http://www.perskyfarms.com/phpBB2/viewt ... =rice+chex
http://www.perskyfarms.com/phpBB2/viewt ... =rice+chex
http://www.perskyfarms.com/phpBB2/viewt ... =rice+chex
http://www.perskyfarms.com/phpBB2/viewt ... =rice+chex
I ate a bowlful of Rice Chex a couple of hours ago. So far, outside of a little bloating, I haven't been able to detect any symptoms. If anything else develops, I'll add a post about it.
Love,
tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Jodi,
Boy, I sure hate to hear that you are having problems of any kind. I have been experimenting with Rice Chex also. I haven't had any major problems to speak of with them. When I went to the store and got them I thought the store was out since they had a box of the house brand put over the real one. I did look at their ingredients and it had barley malt in it and I can't handle barley. With the real Rice Chex I haven't had a problem.
I sure hope you get to feeling good soon.
Jan
Boy, I sure hate to hear that you are having problems of any kind. I have been experimenting with Rice Chex also. I haven't had any major problems to speak of with them. When I went to the store and got them I thought the store was out since they had a box of the house brand put over the real one. I did look at their ingredients and it had barley malt in it and I can't handle barley. With the real Rice Chex I haven't had a problem.
I sure hope you get to feeling good soon.
Jan
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Hi Tex:
Thank You for replying so quickly.
Is it possible that my already existing autoimmune desease (SLE) my be part of the reason I reacted so quickly to something in the cereal.
I have been taking Vit.C, B12, Vit.D and Potassium as the levels that were drawn a couple months ago were VERY LOW. I am of course also taking Calcium.
Since my bone density came back that I now have full blown osteoperosis my family physician and I discussed different courses of treatment as Boniva was prescribed by my Rhuematologist and I had a nasty reaction to it. He wanted me to possibly start some kind of daily injection for 2 years that of course Medicare would only cover so much and the injections with our Medicare Part D Prescription Plan would have reached it's "donut hole" way to quickly and then we would have ended up paying full price for each injection. IOW there was NO WAY I was going to do that until other alternatives were tried.
So Doc McDougall decided to have me start taking some vitamin supplements increasing my Calcium gradually and the Vit. D. I have not been taking anymore Acephex which has really changed things for me and how I'm able to digest things better now that the D has returned to a normal stool (until I ate Rice Chex on Tuesday)
I will take time to read these previous post you've given me and see if anything I may have come in contact with that I wasn't aware of.
Love and God Bless:
Jodi
Thank You for replying so quickly.
Is it possible that my already existing autoimmune desease (SLE) my be part of the reason I reacted so quickly to something in the cereal.
I have been taking Vit.C, B12, Vit.D and Potassium as the levels that were drawn a couple months ago were VERY LOW. I am of course also taking Calcium.
Since my bone density came back that I now have full blown osteoperosis my family physician and I discussed different courses of treatment as Boniva was prescribed by my Rhuematologist and I had a nasty reaction to it. He wanted me to possibly start some kind of daily injection for 2 years that of course Medicare would only cover so much and the injections with our Medicare Part D Prescription Plan would have reached it's "donut hole" way to quickly and then we would have ended up paying full price for each injection. IOW there was NO WAY I was going to do that until other alternatives were tried.
So Doc McDougall decided to have me start taking some vitamin supplements increasing my Calcium gradually and the Vit. D. I have not been taking anymore Acephex which has really changed things for me and how I'm able to digest things better now that the D has returned to a normal stool (until I ate Rice Chex on Tuesday)
I will take time to read these previous post you've given me and see if anything I may have come in contact with that I wasn't aware of.
Love and God Bless:
Jodi
May God and All His Angels, watchover, protect and guide you "One Day At A Time".
Jodi,
Well, yes, you had to have a certain pre-existing level of antibodies already being produced, in order to react so quickly to eating the Rice Chex, or else it would have taken longer to build up enough antibodies to trigger the reaction. That means that something in your body had previously set up the conditions that would trigger such a prompt reaction, but that could be a lot of things, including trace amounts of whatever it was in the Rice Chex that actually triggered the reaction.
I believe that what you are doing to improve your calcium absorption is much better than taking Boniva. Natural methods, (IOW, absorbing calcium from food, the way the body was designed to do), are always better than drugs, because they don't have any adverse side effects, the way that drugs do. I'm sure your doctor told you all this, but factors that increase calcium absorption, include adequate amounts of protein, magnesium, phosphorous, and vitamin D, (especially vitamin D), and factors that reduce calcium absorption, include high intake rates of oxylates and phytates. Foods that contain high oxyalate levels include spinach, rubarb, and beet greens. Foods high in phytates include cereal grains, legumes, seeds, and nuts. Also, the ingestion of items such as alcohol, coffee, sugar, or medications such as diuretics, tetracycline, antacids that contain aluminum, or stress, can reduce the absorption of calcium. Note that soy protein does not work for improving calcium absorption. The protein has to come from non-soy sources. I would assume that you are probably avoiding soy, anyway, though, since it is generally not good for us.
Love,
Tex
Well, yes, you had to have a certain pre-existing level of antibodies already being produced, in order to react so quickly to eating the Rice Chex, or else it would have taken longer to build up enough antibodies to trigger the reaction. That means that something in your body had previously set up the conditions that would trigger such a prompt reaction, but that could be a lot of things, including trace amounts of whatever it was in the Rice Chex that actually triggered the reaction.
I believe that what you are doing to improve your calcium absorption is much better than taking Boniva. Natural methods, (IOW, absorbing calcium from food, the way the body was designed to do), are always better than drugs, because they don't have any adverse side effects, the way that drugs do. I'm sure your doctor told you all this, but factors that increase calcium absorption, include adequate amounts of protein, magnesium, phosphorous, and vitamin D, (especially vitamin D), and factors that reduce calcium absorption, include high intake rates of oxylates and phytates. Foods that contain high oxyalate levels include spinach, rubarb, and beet greens. Foods high in phytates include cereal grains, legumes, seeds, and nuts. Also, the ingestion of items such as alcohol, coffee, sugar, or medications such as diuretics, tetracycline, antacids that contain aluminum, or stress, can reduce the absorption of calcium. Note that soy protein does not work for improving calcium absorption. The protein has to come from non-soy sources. I would assume that you are probably avoiding soy, anyway, though, since it is generally not good for us.
Love,
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Jodi,
Do you have a problem with sugars? The reason I ask is this a.m. on the Today Show they were talking about hidden sugars. I pulled my box of Rice Chex out and saw that sugar and molasses are high up on the list of ingredients.
Jan
Do you have a problem with sugars? The reason I ask is this a.m. on the Today Show they were talking about hidden sugars. I pulled my box of Rice Chex out and saw that sugar and molasses are high up on the list of ingredients.
Jan
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You may have something with this that I need to look into. I do use sugar but very sparingly but during the holidays my Aunt brought me some homemade mollasses cookies. 
I only ate a half a cookie when I had to run to the bathroom. There are things I am unable to eat that others can because of other medical issues I have like dyverticulosous. Sorry if I've spelt it wrong. I'm still in a bit of a fog today.
Thank You for your support.
Love and God Bless:
Jodi
I only ate a half a cookie when I had to run to the bathroom. There are things I am unable to eat that others can because of other medical issues I have like dyverticulosous. Sorry if I've spelt it wrong. I'm still in a bit of a fog today.Thank You for your support.
Love and God Bless:
Jodi
May God and All His Angels, watchover, protect and guide you "One Day At A Time".
Jodi,
Jan has a valid point, obviously. FWIW, when I was recovering, I couldn't tolerate more than the tiniest amounts of sugar of any kind, except for maple sugar. I even reacted to honey, but maple sugar was never a problem - I have no idea why. I also have diverticulosis, but I note that sugar doesn't seem to bother me now, (except for causing weight gain, of course).
Several other members have had major problems with sugar, also, so I'm pretty sure that it's connected with MC. For one thing, sugar is a known trigger for the leaky gut syndrome, which contributes to most of the systemic problems caused by MC.
Love,
Tex
Jan has a valid point, obviously. FWIW, when I was recovering, I couldn't tolerate more than the tiniest amounts of sugar of any kind, except for maple sugar. I even reacted to honey, but maple sugar was never a problem - I have no idea why. I also have diverticulosis, but I note that sugar doesn't seem to bother me now, (except for causing weight gain, of course).
Several other members have had major problems with sugar, also, so I'm pretty sure that it's connected with MC. For one thing, sugar is a known trigger for the leaky gut syndrome, which contributes to most of the systemic problems caused by MC.
Love,
Tex
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Thank You Tex:
I am actually feeling much better today. Infact more and more like myself. LOL However, I'm going to be off and on for a few days. My oldest daughter who is my step daughter but I usually never refer to her as my "step" as I've never believed in putting that title on her. Her mother died several yrs. ago when she was only 8 yrs. old. To make a long story short at this time. Her grandfather passed away and my place is by her side at this time.
Love You All!
Jodi
I am actually feeling much better today. Infact more and more like myself. LOL However, I'm going to be off and on for a few days. My oldest daughter who is my step daughter but I usually never refer to her as my "step" as I've never believed in putting that title on her. Her mother died several yrs. ago when she was only 8 yrs. old. To make a long story short at this time. Her grandfather passed away and my place is by her side at this time.
Love You All!
Jodi
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Hi Joan:
Those cookies probably we NOT GF but they looked so darn good that I couldn't help myself. My Bad! And I paid dearly for it. Will be going out shortly to be with Renee for awhile as she was very close to both her Grandparents. She just lost her Grandmother on Jan.30th of last yr. so it's only been a little over a yr. and Grandpa has now followed. They both were 90yrs old so they both have had a very rich and full life. There are other issues that are complicating things that I will explain later.
Love and God Bless:
Jodi
Those cookies probably we NOT GF but they looked so darn good that I couldn't help myself. My Bad! And I paid dearly for it. Will be going out shortly to be with Renee for awhile as she was very close to both her Grandparents. She just lost her Grandmother on Jan.30th of last yr. so it's only been a little over a yr. and Grandpa has now followed. They both were 90yrs old so they both have had a very rich and full life. There are other issues that are complicating things that I will explain later.
Love and God Bless:
Jodi
May God and All His Angels, watchover, protect and guide you "One Day At A Time".