Interesting news on the Flu and the Vaccine

Feel free to discuss any topic of general interest, so long as nothing you post here is likely to be interpreted as insulting, and/or inflammatory, nor clearly designed to provoke any individual or group. Please be considerate of others feelings, and they will be considerate of yours.

Moderators: Rosie, Stanz, Jean, CAMary, moremuscle, JFR, Dee, xet, Peggy, Matthew, Gabes-Apg, grannyh, Gloria, Mars, starfire, Polly, Joefnh

User avatar
Tessa
Rockhopper Penguin
Rockhopper Penguin
Posts: 774
Joined: Thu May 26, 2005 2:49 pm
Location: Málaga, Spain (Costa del Sol)
Contact:

Interesting news on the Flu and the Vaccine

Post by Tessa »

Hi my dear friends. :smile:

It has been a long time since I´ve posted here. :bigbighug:

I am really sorry, first my husband had a very bad time. We were going to the ER nearly every night until he finally had to go through an emergency surgery and had his gallbladder removed. Been in Hospital about 1,5 weeks. Then, I have been extremely busy working and later creating a non-profit association...

But there is something much more important than an update on me...

I came across some important information with regard to the Flu and my first thought was to share this with you. I do not know if you had access to this kind of information, but It is worth reading it.
The video is in Spanish, but I have been able to find a summary of the content in English for you.
I post the link to the video for those of you who understand Spanish enough: Link to the video

Summary of the content in English Click here (it´s a pdf)

OMS Revised the Definition of Pandemia click here

Teresa Forcades is a Doctor and she explains the origins of the Flu, the vaccines, the politics, the risks, etc.

I hope that this information will be helpful for you.
With love for all of you,:pulsinghearts:
Tessa
DX Secondary Adrenal Insufficiency= Panhypopituitarism,POTS & MC. Anaphylactic reaction to foods & some drugs.
Gluten & Dairy free diet+hydrocortisone, Florinef, Sea Salt, Vit B Complex, Potassium, Sodium, Magnesium...
User avatar
tex
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 35349
Joined: Tue May 24, 2005 9:00 am
Location: Central Texas

Post by tex »

Hi Tessa,

Wow! Thank you for posting that information. Based on what I've read there, there is no way that I would agree to take that vaccination. The risks are totally unacceptable. If that information is correct, Baxter is totally untrustworthy. They should not be allowed to make vaccines of any kind.

Over here, most people seem to be dealing with the flu without any serious problems. Apparently a lot of people are taking the vaccinations, though, because the vaccines are always in short supply. That's probably a good thing. :lol:

We've missed you here. I can see why you didn't have any free time, though - you surely have been busy. I'm sorry to hear of your husband's ordeal with gallbladder disease, but I'm glad that the problem was finally resolved.

So how are you feeling, these days?

Love,
Tex
:cowboy:

It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
User avatar
Tessa
Rockhopper Penguin
Rockhopper Penguin
Posts: 774
Joined: Thu May 26, 2005 2:49 pm
Location: Málaga, Spain (Costa del Sol)
Contact:

Post by Tessa »

Hi tex
Glad to see you :bigbighug:
How are you my dear friend?

I couldn´t wait to share the video and all the information with you. It is to be worried. I have been surfing the net today to find confirmation of what this doctor was saying on her video and it seems true (at least what I have been looking for)

According to what I´ve found, it is true that Baxter Laboratory contaminated vaccines with deadly live H5N1 avian flu virus and distributed it to 18 countries last December... It was only providence that the batch was first tested on ferrets in the Czech Republic, before being shipped out for injection into humans. The ferrets all died and the shocking discovery was made.

This news was confirmed by the Austrian Ministry of Health. The Austrian health ministry reported the incident to the European Union and is conducting its own audit.

The World Health Organization “is aware of the situation and is consulting with the ministers of health of the countries involved to ensure that all public risks arising from this event have been identified and managed appropriately,” said Gregory Hartl, a spokesman in Geneva.

The European Medicines Agency has no immediate comment.
The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which distributes seasonal flu viruses to companies for vaccine manufacturing, isn’t investigating or providing consultation.
The CDC is staying in touch with the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control regarding the incident.

Initially, Baxter attempted to stonewall questions by invoking “trade secrets” and refused to reveal how the vaccines were contaminated with H5N1. After increased pressure they then claimed that pure H5N1 batches were sent by accident.

And it is Baxter who is working with the World Health Organization on a potential vaccine to curb the deadly swine flu virus...

Article published by the NEW ENGLAND JOURNAL OF MEDICINE (NEJM) about the virus: Virus History

US President´s Daughters Not vaccinated

The news that a fourth person has died after taking the "swine flu" jab in Sweden is focussing attention on the failure of the Swedish Medical Products Agency (MPA) to halt the "swine flu" programme even as reports of serious side effects flood in.
October 25th:
According to a report by Marc Badertscher in the Swiss newspaper, the Tagesanzeiger, the Swiss authorities have decided not to authorise the use of Novartis's swine flu jab "Celtura" on the grounds that there are insufficient studies to show it is safe, especially for women and children.

Arkansas DHS vaccinates 36 children with swine flu vaccine against parents objections
See full article: link

Germany:
Fredrich Hoffmann, the head of Germany's national vaccine commission, has told doctors that they should give the untested "swine flu" jab to their patients no matter what their opinion about it might be, but German doctors are refusing to bow down and be bullied.

Another interesting article I´ve found:

The Swedish doctor Annika Dahlqvist, who lost her job for speaking out about her scepticism ragarding the mass vaccinations against "swine flu" in Sweden, has on her blog further explained her doubts regarding WHO, the disease and its "cure".

This is from her blog:

"As you can imagine, I get many emails about influenza and vaccination. Some of them contain information about how the new swine flu virus and the vaccine was created. This virus consists of genetic material from seasonal flu, swine flu and avian flu viruses. Viruses can not mix in this way in nature. Viruses can mutate, but they have no sexual reproduction that can mix genetic material. This means that the new virus was made in a laboratory, probably by pharmaceutical companies. The virus is then planted in strategic places around the world to cause an epidemic outbreak. After that, manufacturers persuade contacts in the WHO to issue a pandemic declaration. The unsuspecting politicians in countries around the world start mass-vaccinations of the population. And vaccine manufacturers makes billions off the whole thing, with relatively little input.

And this only looking for more information about all this for about 1 hour...
:unsure:
Make the investigation yourself. You will be surprised with all the confirmations that you can find (some of them from doctors, physicians, journalists, etc.).
Baxter is totally untrustworthy. They should not be allowed to make vaccines of any kind.
I really cannot understand how they have been able to admit the reasons for their "error" and allow them to collaborate in making the vaccine...
We've missed you here. I can see why you didn't have any free time, though - you surely have been busy. I'm sorry to hear of your husband's ordeal with gallbladder disease, but I'm glad that the problem was finally resolved.
Missed you too.
We had some difficult days and nights, but thanks God, he is fine and healthy now.
So how are you feeling, these days?
Thank you for asking, Tex. :pulsinghearts:
I have an app. with my endo the first week of November. I am going to propose a different steroid, as it seems that my body uses the hormone that he prescribed too fast and I am forced to use extra dosis to cope with the routine and stress of a normal day... Though I can never have a "normal day", at least I can do more of the things I couldn´t before the dx.
In the meantime, I have developed some more allergies to food. Had a reaction that made me feel really ill... According to my GP it was an anaphilactic reaction... At least the first phase of it... He prescribed the inyection (I have it home now)... It is not exactly the Epi.pen but similar...

Symptoms started eating the fruits but got worse several hours later: difficulty swallowing, throat pain, swollen throat and tongue, hoarseness, hives on tongue and throat, weakness, sensation of fever, headache... And the following day: abdominal pain, nausea...

But in general, I am fine... Working, writing, enjoying... And very busy creating an non-profit association...

Do not think that I do not visit your forum. I do from time to time, just to have a look and read some of your posts, even though I do not write...:wink:

Thank you for your kind answer to my post,Tex. You are always so helpful and kind.
Love,
Tessa :bigbighug:
DX Secondary Adrenal Insufficiency= Panhypopituitarism,POTS & MC. Anaphylactic reaction to foods & some drugs.
Gluten & Dairy free diet+hydrocortisone, Florinef, Sea Salt, Vit B Complex, Potassium, Sodium, Magnesium...
User avatar
tex
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 35349
Joined: Tue May 24, 2005 9:00 am
Location: Central Texas

Post by tex »

Tessa,

I'm doing well, as far as I can tell. Thank you for asking.

Hmmmmmmmm. Very, very interesting, that the president's daughters aren't getting the vaccination. :shock: The excuse given, seems pretty flimsy. One would think that if the vaccine had any value, and it were safe, the presidents daughters, of all people, would be given the shot. Strange, to say the least.

Regarding Dr. Dahlqvist's blog, I remember reading somewhere else, where someone commented that this virus "probably escaped from some laboratory". Hmmmmmmm. I don't know what happened, but something like that wouldn't surprise me at all.

The reaction you had does sound like an anaphylactic reaction, though it seemed to develop more slowly than a classic anaphylactic reaction.

I hope that you can get the steroid treatment changed to the one you want, next month.

You're most welcome, and thank you for all the information, dear friend.

Love,
Tex
:cowboy:

It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
User avatar
Tessa
Rockhopper Penguin
Rockhopper Penguin
Posts: 774
Joined: Thu May 26, 2005 2:49 pm
Location: Málaga, Spain (Costa del Sol)
Contact:

Post by Tessa »

Hi Tex

Just read the latest on the vaccine and wanted to add it to the information already given:
CDC States H1N1 Vaccine May Maim and Kill 30,000 Americans, FDA Requires Minimal Efficacy
CDC says to assume 1 in every 100,000 vaccine recipients will suffer serious side effects, FDA only requires vaccine be effective.

The Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has officially stated that there will be as many as 30,000 serious, potentially lethal adverse reactions to the novel H1N1 vaccine, while the FDA guidelines for the novel H1N1 vaccine only require that it work in 3 out of every 10 recipients.

The assembled group of 80 participants was shown a video, given a brief oral presentation and a printed discussion guide. We were asked to accept several assumptions in considering the topic. We were asked to assume that the severity would be similar to what had already been observed in the spring of 2009; we were told to assume that the vaccination program would be voluntary, not mandatory; we were told to assume that initial vaccine supplies will be available in October but supply would be limited through February 2010.

The most disturbing assumption we were asked to accept dealt with the safety of the novel H1N1 vaccine. In the video, the CDC spokesperson explained that during the 1976 mass vaccination campaign, 1 in every 100,000 recipients of the vaccine developed Guillain Barré syndrome (GBS), a disorder in which the body's immune system attacks the peripheral nervous system often leading to paralysis and death. There is no known cure for GBS.

This means that if the entire U.S. population is vaccinated (a stated goal of the CDC), we are to assume as a fact that 30,000 Americans will suffer debilitating or lethal side effects. Apparently the CDC considers this an acceptable level of collateral damage.

As unthinkable as this is (destroying or ending the lives of as many as 30,000 Americans), that is only part of the story.

So here are the facts, as documented by the CDC and the FDA:

As many as 30,000 Americans will be harmed by the novel H1N1 vaccine.

The vaccine may be ineffective in more than 7 out of 10 recipients.


And in case you think I am alone in my concerns, here is what several vaccine experts associated with the CDC and the U.S. government say on the subject.

"I am very skeptical of finishing vaccine before we know the appropriate dose to be included in each inoculation, before immunogenicity studies are complete, or before safety assessments have been finished," William Schaffner, MD, Chairman of the Department of Preventive Medicine at Vanderbilt University and a member of the CDC Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP), wrote in an recent e-mail.

"We have assured both the profession and the public that the H1N1 vaccine will be evaluated with the same rigor that is applied to seasonal vaccine. We should NOT make vaccine available before the trials are complete and the results carefully assessed."
Source and full article

:shock:
That´s really to be shocked...
Don´t you think so?

Love,
Tessa
DX Secondary Adrenal Insufficiency= Panhypopituitarism,POTS & MC. Anaphylactic reaction to foods & some drugs.
Gluten & Dairy free diet+hydrocortisone, Florinef, Sea Salt, Vit B Complex, Potassium, Sodium, Magnesium...
Rosie
Rockhopper Penguin
Rockhopper Penguin
Posts: 746
Joined: Mon Jun 22, 2009 5:38 pm
Location: Tucson, AZ

Post by Rosie »

I just read in the paper this morning that the President's daughters have now received the H1N1 flu vaccine. I suspect that it was in response to all the suspicion that surfaced when it became known that they hadn't gotten it, along the lines of "what does Obama know that hasn't been made public".........

Rosie
Our greatest weakness lies in giving up. The most certain way to succeed is always to try just one more time………Thomas Edison
User avatar
Tessa
Rockhopper Penguin
Rockhopper Penguin
Posts: 774
Joined: Thu May 26, 2005 2:49 pm
Location: Málaga, Spain (Costa del Sol)
Contact:

Post by Tessa »

Thanks for your answer, Rosie. :smile:

I wonder if they really got the vaccine... Or if the statement is just (as you mention) in response to the suspicion...

Maybe it´s too late now to say that they got it. You now what I mean.

First they said that they had no other disease for them to get the vaccine and now they say they got it... :roll:

Love,
Tessa
DX Secondary Adrenal Insufficiency= Panhypopituitarism,POTS & MC. Anaphylactic reaction to foods & some drugs.
Gluten & Dairy free diet+hydrocortisone, Florinef, Sea Salt, Vit B Complex, Potassium, Sodium, Magnesium...
User avatar
mbeezie
Rockhopper Penguin
Rockhopper Penguin
Posts: 1500
Joined: Fri May 29, 2009 3:14 am
Location: Texas

Post by mbeezie »

Hi Tessa,

Thanks for the vaccine info. Very interesting.

Some of the reactions you are having with food sound all too familiar to me. I was wondering if you ever considered that you might have mast cell or histamine issues, since the symptoms you are having are symptoms related to those 2 things. A few of us on this forum have those issues and we recently had a lengthy discussion on "mastocytic enterocolitis" that you may be interested in reading. Some of the foods you are intolerant to are either high in histamine or histmamine liberators. I get throat swelling and have had anaphylactoid reactions as well, so I know how scary those reactions can be.

Take care,

Mary Beth
User avatar
Tessa
Rockhopper Penguin
Rockhopper Penguin
Posts: 774
Joined: Thu May 26, 2005 2:49 pm
Location: Málaga, Spain (Costa del Sol)
Contact:

Post by Tessa »

Hi mbeezie

Thank you for taking the time to answer. :smile:

I am glad to know that the information on the vaccine has been interesting. It is really :shock:


With regard to the information that you mention on my reactions to some food, well I have MC (Microscopic Colitis), but even though I do not think that I can have mast cell issues... Histamine issues seems interesting. Some of the symptoms match... I have talked about it with my husband and he said it could be a possibility. We will investigate it.
Thank you for telling me. :smile:

Take care,
Love,
Tessa
DX Secondary Adrenal Insufficiency= Panhypopituitarism,POTS & MC. Anaphylactic reaction to foods & some drugs.
Gluten & Dairy free diet+hydrocortisone, Florinef, Sea Salt, Vit B Complex, Potassium, Sodium, Magnesium...
User avatar
angy
Rockhopper Penguin
Rockhopper Penguin
Posts: 1053
Joined: Sat Jun 28, 2008 3:46 pm
Location: scotland,Edinburgh

Post by angy »

Thats pretty shocking information tessa, thank you for sharing that...

its funny one of my clients said to me the other day.... :shock: "i think the goverments are causing these viruses... to cut down the population..

i hope not... :shock:
Angy ;)
User avatar
Tessa
Rockhopper Penguin
Rockhopper Penguin
Posts: 774
Joined: Thu May 26, 2005 2:49 pm
Location: Málaga, Spain (Costa del Sol)
Contact:

Post by Tessa »

Hi Angy,

Thank you for posting.
:smile:

I was sent a link to a video where you can hear the ex-minister for Health (Finland) talking about the vaccine and the virus, and what she is saying is amazing... :shock:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_738N1J ... re=related




Love,
Tessa
DX Secondary Adrenal Insufficiency= Panhypopituitarism,POTS & MC. Anaphylactic reaction to foods & some drugs.
Gluten & Dairy free diet+hydrocortisone, Florinef, Sea Salt, Vit B Complex, Potassium, Sodium, Magnesium...
User avatar
angy
Rockhopper Penguin
Rockhopper Penguin
Posts: 1053
Joined: Sat Jun 28, 2008 3:46 pm
Location: scotland,Edinburgh

Post by angy »

ThAnks for the link that was quite interesting . I believe a lot in her theory regarding the souls consciousness and spirituality. I am very spiritual but not in a christian way...more on a souls journey kind of way... I didn't know that they put aids virus into a smallpox vaccine to give those people in Africa..if that's true that is unethical and totally evil
Angy ;)
User avatar
Tessa
Rockhopper Penguin
Rockhopper Penguin
Posts: 774
Joined: Thu May 26, 2005 2:49 pm
Location: Málaga, Spain (Costa del Sol)
Contact:

Post by Tessa »

When reading and seeing this kind of information (and from people who were politically important) it makes you wonder about other things we do not know.

I really doubt about the vaccine being safe... When have they been so "helpful" to donate vaccines to Africa, etc.?
If the flu is not pandemic (as the term was considered before changing it)...Why insisting on having the vaccine?
...
Too many questions and doubts.

Really unbelievable

Love,
Tessa
DX Secondary Adrenal Insufficiency= Panhypopituitarism,POTS & MC. Anaphylactic reaction to foods & some drugs.
Gluten & Dairy free diet+hydrocortisone, Florinef, Sea Salt, Vit B Complex, Potassium, Sodium, Magnesium...
User avatar
Tessa
Rockhopper Penguin
Rockhopper Penguin
Posts: 774
Joined: Thu May 26, 2005 2:49 pm
Location: Málaga, Spain (Costa del Sol)
Contact:

Post by Tessa »

Latest news:
A 64-year-old woman died last week just two days after receiving an inoculation against the new A(H1N1) influenza virus dubbed swine flu. The state medical service ÁNTSZ ordered an autopsy to establish whether there was any link between the vaccine and the death of the patient, who suffered from chronic, but mild, heart disease.
full article
Hungary's new flu vaccine not suitable for children, pregnant women, says health advisor
Ministry of Health has not established the exact diagnosis of the epidemic disease in the western regions of Ukraine. Health Minister Vasyl Knyazevich has given information about spread of diseases in the Ternopil, Ivano-Frankivsk and Lviv Regions today at the meeting of Cabinet of Ministers... Doctors and specialists of the Transcarpathian regional sanitary-epidemiological station previously recognized swine flu as the cause of death, but in connection with the complexity of the final laboratory tests the cause of death of the man has not yet succeeded, reports Obozrevatel.
full article
Top insurer tells 1,000 GPs not to give swine flu vaccine.
an insurance company which covers around 1,000 of the 2,200 to 2,500 GPs in the country advised them not to sign up for the work because of legal indemnity issues.

Medisec Ireland, which covers around 1,000 GPs, told their members yesterday not to sign up until all indemnity issues were resolved.
full article
DX Secondary Adrenal Insufficiency= Panhypopituitarism,POTS & MC. Anaphylactic reaction to foods & some drugs.
Gluten & Dairy free diet+hydrocortisone, Florinef, Sea Salt, Vit B Complex, Potassium, Sodium, Magnesium...
User avatar
Tessa
Rockhopper Penguin
Rockhopper Penguin
Posts: 774
Joined: Thu May 26, 2005 2:49 pm
Location: Málaga, Spain (Costa del Sol)
Contact:

Post by Tessa »

A recent study by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) found that of the 36 children who died from H1N1 from April to August, six had no chronic health conditions. But all of them had a co-occurring bacterial infection.

The most common co-occurring infection that causes flu-related deaths is staphylococcus aureus. A third of the population carries it, most in their nose or on their skin. :shock:

The flu causes upper respiratory damage, which allows the staph to make its way into the lungs.
DX Secondary Adrenal Insufficiency= Panhypopituitarism,POTS & MC. Anaphylactic reaction to foods & some drugs.
Gluten & Dairy free diet+hydrocortisone, Florinef, Sea Salt, Vit B Complex, Potassium, Sodium, Magnesium...
Post Reply

Return to “Main Message Board”