What About This For Bone Density????

Dee · Post by **Dee** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 4:09 pm

Does anybody have any experience with using Strontium Citrate????
Personally, I think the pharma's are taking their good ole time on this as they are making billions on the bone density meds, like Fosamax, Boniva, Reclast.
Does anybody want to chime in on this????
Polly, I am very curious as to what you think????

Love
Dee~~~

Post by **tex** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 5:32 pm

Hi Dee,

I agree with you - the pharmaceutical companies don't want any cheap remedies to be available, if they can help it. Here's a blog by a lady who has been taking strontium citrate for almost two years:

http://strontiumforbones.blogspot.com/2 ... trial.html

Also, here's a discussion board that she participates in, which has a number of threads about strontium citrate:

http://www.inspire.com/groups/national- ... e-effects/

Here's a thread from last March, on this board, (which you probably remember), where it was discussed in quite a few posts:

http://www.perskyfarms.com/phpBB2/viewt ... um+citrate

Love,
Tex

Dee · Post by **Dee** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 9:43 pm

Thanks Wayne!
Before I posted I read the Bone Lady's blog & the inspire one.
Now! I have been taking Citracal (citrate) because I thought that it is absorbed better, & Vitamin D3.
After reading thru previous posts on the board that you provided on strontium, I came across this :
(but note that calcium citrate is not recommended in combination with other types of calcium supplements, and it can also adversely affect vitamin D supplements, which might make it less desirable, for anyone serious about trying to prevent osteoporosis).. Well, Geeeezzzzz!
I guess I better switch to Caltrate now!!!
I totally refuse to take any of the prescribed meds for osteopenia, of which I have) and my bone scan the 1st of this month showed I had lost 20% more bone density in my left femur.
BUT, I am seriously considering giving the strontium citrate a whirl.
I'm going to check out iherb.com for it.
Love
Dee~~~~

Post by **tex** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 10:52 pm

Dee,

Now that you mention it, I do recall the issue about the calcium citrate.

I really believe the strontium has a lot going for it. It may not be a perfect solution for everyone, but all the alternative treatments, (the bisphosphonates), have even more problems, and they have a lot of skeletons in the closet, IMO.

Love,
Wayne

jodibelle352 · Post by **jodibelle352** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 11:20 pm

Hi Dee:

My Rhue. Dr. tried me on Boniva and I really had some adverse reactions to that med. You only need to take it once a month but for 5 days after taking only one dosage of Boniva I had terrible problems with the stomach. I was down and out for 5 days on the couch. I never took the second dosage.

I do take Caltrate and have no problems with taking it. The other meds you have mentioned I haven't taken.

I'm pretty leary when it comes to all the hype on meds that are supose to improve and help you to regain your bone loss. I've heard so many different stories that I no longer know what to believe. A friend of mine who is a nurse has told me that most meds may slow down the osteoperosis but once you've lost bone density you really never get it back. So I'm not sure what to believe. She told me once it's gone even meds won't get it back for you.

Hope you have a very Merry Christmas my Friend and a Happy New Year!

Love and God Bless:
Jodi

Alice · Post by **Alice** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:52 am

Hi everyone,

I don't post much any more, but this discussion caught my eye and I just had to comment. I, too, don't like to take drugs, but I have very strong risk factors for osteoporosis. I watched my mom and 3 aunts suffer greatly because of it. So when I was diagnosed with it about 8 years ago, I decided to try the available bisphosphonates. I had already been taking calcium and doing weight bearing exercise.

After two years on the once-a-week drug (forgot the name) my dexa-scan showed improvement in bone mass. After about 4 years I moved from the osteoporosis category to osteopenia (another improvement). Each time I have a dexa scan there is improvement. I've been on Boniva since it came out. I've never had any side effects from the meds - I take them exactly as directed.

So I guess you could call me a "drug success story" - hahah! I understand that everyone is different; for me this was the answer. I agree that the drug companies are only looking out for themselves, and not the health of the general public, as they would like us to think. That's a whole other topic!

Best of luck to everyone trying to prevent or treat osteoporosis.

Love,
Alice

Lucy · Post by **Lucy** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:49 am

Hiya Alice,

Wow, hope I'm as fortunate as you when I eventually get myself on some of that stuff. My sister has been on the kind you take once a month for several months now. Only problem she had was after the very first dose. Main thing is not to bend over for 30 minutes or so, I think.

I figure that since I'm sooo bad about taking medication on time, that I'd do better doing the once a month thing as well.

Interesting topic. Wonder if people would be able to supplement with this at the same time as taking the meds??

Yours, Luce

Post by **Rosie** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:14 pm

Dee wrote:

(but note that calcium citrate is not recommended in combination with other types of calcium supplements, and it can also adversely affect vitamin D supplements, which might make it less desirable, for anyone serious about trying to prevent osteoporosis).. Well, Geeeezzzzz!

I went looking for that info and couldn't find it. I'd like to learn more about why calcium citrate can interfere with Vit D absorption. I'm very interested because I'm trying to get my Vit D level up, and it barely budged after 6 months with 2000U/day, up from my normal 500U I was taking. I've been taking calcium citrate because I was told that it's better absorbed, but maybe that's not true.

Rosie

Post by **tex** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 2:32 pm

Hi Rosie,

I think those restrictions are mostly related to special circumstances. Here are some examples:

Elevated calcium levels are associated with arthritic / joint and vascular degeneration, calcification of
soft tissue, hypertension and stroke, an increase in VLDL triglycerides, gastrointestinal disturbances,
mood and depressive disorders, chronic fatigue, increased alkalinity, and general mineral imbalances.
High calcium levels interfere with Vitamin D and subsequently inhibit the vitamin's cancer-protective effect unless extra amounts of Vitamin D are supplemented.

http://www.acu-cell.com/acn.html

When calcium citrate is taken with aluminum-containing antacids, the amount of aluminum absorbed into the blood may be increased significantly. This is a particular problem for people with kidney disease, for whom the aluminum levels may become toxic.

If I recall correctly, most antacids are based on calcium carbonate, (since it's cheaper). There are a lot of other interactions listed in this article, from the University of Maryland Medical Center.

http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/calcium-000290.htm

Tex

Post by **Rosie** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:56 pm

Thanks, Tex. I guess I won't throw out my calcium citrate since I don't have any of those special circumstances. I picked up some strontium citrate to try. I found some pills without any of my intolerances.

Rosie

Post by **tex** » Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:08 pm

Rosie,

Please keep us posted on how it goes, with the strontium citrate.

Tex