question regarding penicilin or antibiotic use

wonderwoman · Post by **wonderwoman** » Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:33 am

I was at the Periodontist again this morning for a check up after the deep cleaning of my teeth that was done in January and February 2010. I shared with him the fact that on Jan 6, 2010 I had a tooth abscess and was treated with penicillin after which I was diagnosed with CC. I am on GF,CF,SF diet. I am not to take Ibuprofen or Naproxen. He noted this on the chart.

He wants so much to put in a dental implant where I have had a tooth missing since I was about 10 years old. The reason is to stop bone loss. He said it would require me having penicillin again. He said patients have tried it without, using natural products, and ended up with serious problems. I told him I don’t want to have to take antibiotics unless absolutely necessary. He wants me to check with my doctor. I am checking you you guys rather the the doctor as I trust your judgement more than his. I guess my question would be, what happens when somone with MC takes penicillin or other antibiotic?

My feeling is I have had that tooth missing for 60 years, why fix it now. Besides he wants $3,500. No wonder the dentists keeps pushing it.

He wants to start the procedure this Friday and I said no way. My reasoning is I have got to get the CC under control first.

And along those lines, I am so happy because I only had 1 BM yesterday early in the morning and another one early this morning. Will see what happens the rest of the day.

Will write more later in another post as I need to get ready for an outing with my Red Hat group.

Polly · Post by **Polly** » Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:16 pm

Hi WW! Lovely photo - it's fun to have a face to go with the name!

I can relate to your dilemma. Am about to undergo an implant in a few weeks for the same reason - lack of a permanent tooth erupting. Shirley (starfire) has been going through multiple implants the past year or more, but she just went away for a vacation. She did take antibiotics (I think she said amoxicillin) each time without much difficulty. If you do ending up taking a course of them, you might want to take probiotics at the same time to build up the good bacteria in your colon.

My periodontist initially wanted me to go on clindamycin. I told him about my colitis and my fear of that particular antibiotic - it is highly associated with the development of C. difficile infection and causes diarrhea in 30-40% of "normal" people who take it. He then suggested just using a "loading dose" - a one-time dose on the day of surgery. He said that the risk of side effects was greater the longer you take it, and I believe this is correct. However, I still don't want to take that medication, so I convinced him to let me take Cipro, which in general is well tolerated by MCers. He then said I could just do a "loading dose" of Cipro - 500 mg. before surgery and again 6 hours later. I am OK with this.

In reading on the internet, I see that not all perios use antibiotics for uncomplicated surgeries. However, if you also need bone grafting (like I do) or if it is a procedure involving a sinus lift, then antibiotics are a good idea. It has been just recently that the "loading doses" are being used.

Good luck with your decision. Let us know how it goes.

Love,

Polly

wonderwoman · Post by **wonderwoman** » Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:32 pm

Thanks for the great information Polly. After I get more replies I will copy and past the results to a blank page and then print and file it in my dental folder so I can find it easily should I need to refer to it in the future. Right now, an implant is out of the question. DH and I have both had dental work done in Mexico with good results. Cleaning, fillings, crowns, extraction, etc. However, now I would be leary of going there for dental work with my new DX of CC.

Gabes-Apg · Post by **Gabes-Apg** » Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:40 pm

lovely photo

I have been allergic to penicillian since childhood. Given my natural focus for the past 15 years i have managed to avoid taking anitbiotics during this time (and used natural things like olive leaf extract for times as antibacterial and antiviral treatment)

For interest/discussion. in the natural world, in women, teeth are connected to hormones. women will quite often have teeth issues such as root canal type issues at times of hormone changes (pregnancy, menopause, etc)

i have some minor teeth issues that need attention, i have a very low pain threshold, and my plan was to get the MC under control and then deal with the teeth situation...

Post by **Rosie** » Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:13 pm

Gabes, to make cross-reference to the other topic of dealing with stress, the very thought of dental work sure gets my stress levels up. It's not the low pain threshold, its the low courage threshold.....

Rosie

Gabes-Apg · Post by **Gabes-Apg** » Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:22 pm

the other fun part of dental work for me is that I am allergic to Banana's, and tend to have reactions to things like latex, most noticeably when i have visit to dentist and they spend 30 mins or more rubbing latex around my mouth and chin region. so for 24 hours my skin looks quite bad.

it takes all my courage to make the appointment and get myself there

Post by **tex** » Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:21 pm

Charlotte,

You might find the information in this post to be helpful:

http://www.perskyfarms.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=870

Gabes,

Ask your dentist and his assistants if they would wear nitrile, or vinyl gloves, while working on you. Those gloves are made for people who are allergic to latex. Also, unpowdered gloves are a safer option, unless the type of powder used, is known to be GF.

Tex