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because I wouldn't let him give her the pill until I checked with you!She may have pancreatitis but we have to wait for blood work.
My dog is being treated for colitis!
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My dog is being treated for colitis!
Tex, new vet wants her to take the equivalent of Flagyl. Is that OK? My husband is having a because I wouldn't let him give her the pill until I checked with you!
She may have pancreatitis but we have to wait for blood work.
because I wouldn't let him give her the pill until I checked with you!She may have pancreatitis but we have to wait for blood work.
DISCLAIMER: I am not a doctor and don't play one on TV.
LDN July 18, 2014
Joan
LDN July 18, 2014
Joan
From the printout from the vet clinic provided by the American Animal Hospital Association:
"How is colitis treated?
Treatment is directed at the specific cause of colitis, but often includes fasting for 24-48 hours, feeding a low residue or hypoallergenic diet, increasing dietary fiber content, adding fermentable fiber such as psyllium or a diet containing beet pulp or fructooligosaccharides. Antimicrobial drugs such as fenbendazole, metronidazole and fluroquinolnes may be indicated based on your dog's diagnosis. Anti-inflammatory or immunosuppressive drugs such as sulfasalazine, prednisone, and azathioprine are also used in cases of inflammatory or immune-mediated colitis. Drugs that modify the colon's motility, including loperamide, diphenoxylate and propantheline bromide, may provide symptomatic relief."
"How is colitis treated?
Treatment is directed at the specific cause of colitis, but often includes fasting for 24-48 hours, feeding a low residue or hypoallergenic diet, increasing dietary fiber content, adding fermentable fiber such as psyllium or a diet containing beet pulp or fructooligosaccharides. Antimicrobial drugs such as fenbendazole, metronidazole and fluroquinolnes may be indicated based on your dog's diagnosis. Anti-inflammatory or immunosuppressive drugs such as sulfasalazine, prednisone, and azathioprine are also used in cases of inflammatory or immune-mediated colitis. Drugs that modify the colon's motility, including loperamide, diphenoxylate and propantheline bromide, may provide symptomatic relief."
DISCLAIMER: I am not a doctor and don't play one on TV.
LDN July 18, 2014
Joan
LDN July 18, 2014
Joan
Joan,
Sorry I'm late to respond to your post, (for some unexplained reason, I seem to be having a hypertensive event, which is somewhat distracting).
Flagyl is a fairly broad spectrum antiotic, that will even control non-resistant C. diff, and it should be generally safe, but like all meds, it's not without risk, (mostly the same risks that we might face, if we were to take it). Here's a site that lists the possible side effects, and what to look for:
http://www.ehow.com/about_5233291_side- ... -dogs.html
IMO, most vets are probably more reliable than most GI docs, when it comes to technical expertise, FWIW, but that's just my opinion.
Tex
Sorry I'm late to respond to your post, (for some unexplained reason, I seem to be having a hypertensive event, which is somewhat distracting).
Flagyl is a fairly broad spectrum antiotic, that will even control non-resistant C. diff, and it should be generally safe, but like all meds, it's not without risk, (mostly the same risks that we might face, if we were to take it). Here's a site that lists the possible side effects, and what to look for:
http://www.ehow.com/about_5233291_side- ... -dogs.html
IMO, most vets are probably more reliable than most GI docs, when it comes to technical expertise, FWIW, but that's just my opinion.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
I'm so sorry. I hope you are feeling better now.
I guess I was remembering Flagyl and C. Diff info. Thanks for the link, I'll read it in a minute. I'm sick about this, thinking it can be an ongoing problem.
I also don't understand this vet saying she doesn't have an anal gland problem and the old one saying she does. I'm just about nuts over all this. STRESS and more STRESS.
I guess I don't like the fiber stuff in that info considering what you have taught me.
Take care of yourself, please. THANKS.
I guess I was remembering Flagyl and C. Diff info. Thanks for the link, I'll read it in a minute. I'm sick about this, thinking it can be an ongoing problem.
I also don't understand this vet saying she doesn't have an anal gland problem and the old one saying she does. I'm just about nuts over all this. STRESS and more STRESS.
I guess I don't like the fiber stuff in that info considering what you have taught me.
Take care of yourself, please. THANKS.
DISCLAIMER: I am not a doctor and don't play one on TV.
LDN July 18, 2014
Joan
LDN July 18, 2014
Joan
Joan
You might want to check out DogtorJ a veterinarian that has celiac diseases and is well versed in how to treat animals of all kinds . Both four legged and two legged
He has a new site
http://dogtorj.com/
or his old site
http://dogtorj.tripod.com./
He is a masterful writer and several members have written to him about their dogs or their own health problems and have been replied to with kindness, consideration , good will and remarkable insights both about their own health but also their dogs.
Good luck.
I hate to see any animal suffer from ignorance. Make sure you read some of his articles like ”Gluten Intolerance in Dogs And Cats” or “The Answer” and “Viruses- Friend or Foe” Also “Lectins- The Missing Link”
Hope this helps both you and your dog.
Love
Matthew
You might want to check out DogtorJ a veterinarian that has celiac diseases and is well versed in how to treat animals of all kinds . Both four legged and two legged
He has a new site
http://dogtorj.com/
or his old site
http://dogtorj.tripod.com./
He is a masterful writer and several members have written to him about their dogs or their own health problems and have been replied to with kindness, consideration , good will and remarkable insights both about their own health but also their dogs.
Good luck.
I hate to see any animal suffer from ignorance. Make sure you read some of his articles like ”Gluten Intolerance in Dogs And Cats” or “The Answer” and “Viruses- Friend or Foe” Also “Lectins- The Missing Link”
Hope this helps both you and your dog.
Love
Matthew
Joan,
This is just my opinion, but I have a hunch that, like a lot of things, fiber is oversold, especially in a species such as canines. In the wild, fiber is a very minor part of most carnivore diets.
Fiber became popular when commercial pet foods came into vogue, because fiber is the cheapest ingredient in a feed ration, therefore it tends to be promoted by manufacturers, because if they can sell it, it allows them to compete in the market better, (with a cheaper product), and/or make more profit on it.
Dogs seem to have a lot of digestive system problems, these days, and similar to the situation with digestive diseases in humans, it has to be somehow connected with diet. We're not feeding them what they were evolved to eat. A lot of the ingredient lists for pet foods are waaaaaaaaaaaay too long to not contain something harmful.
Good luck with the treatment.
Tex
P. S. I feel OK, it's just that my BP is somewhat erratic, and way too high, and I can't figure out what driving it.
P. P. S. Matthew - that's a very good suggestion.
This is just my opinion, but I have a hunch that, like a lot of things, fiber is oversold, especially in a species such as canines. In the wild, fiber is a very minor part of most carnivore diets.
Fiber became popular when commercial pet foods came into vogue, because fiber is the cheapest ingredient in a feed ration, therefore it tends to be promoted by manufacturers, because if they can sell it, it allows them to compete in the market better, (with a cheaper product), and/or make more profit on it.
Dogs seem to have a lot of digestive system problems, these days, and similar to the situation with digestive diseases in humans, it has to be somehow connected with diet. We're not feeding them what they were evolved to eat. A lot of the ingredient lists for pet foods are waaaaaaaaaaaay too long to not contain something harmful.
Good luck with the treatment.
Tex
P. S. I feel OK, it's just that my BP is somewhat erratic, and way too high, and I can't figure out what driving it.
P. P. S. Matthew - that's a very good suggestion.
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Joan
You might find this an interesting thread.
http://www.perskyfarms.com/phpBB2/viewt ... ht=dogtorj
Lovw
Matthew
You might find this an interesting thread.
http://www.perskyfarms.com/phpBB2/viewt ... ht=dogtorj
Lovw
Matthew
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Tex
hope you are ok.... and the eratic BP is not an indicator that you are doing too much
Matthew
I agree with your theory, when i had dogs i was very picky as to what brands of commercial foods i would give them as they had started to fill the dry food with reject batches of cake mixes etc. the main ingredient of some dog foods was wheat and soy which is not the natural diet for these animals.
I used feed my four legged babies: -
boiled rice
veges peelings that were processed up
raw meat (mixture of chicken necks and red other meats)
hope you are ok.... and the eratic BP is not an indicator that you are doing too much
Matthew
I agree with your theory, when i had dogs i was very picky as to what brands of commercial foods i would give them as they had started to fill the dry food with reject batches of cake mixes etc. the main ingredient of some dog foods was wheat and soy which is not the natural diet for these animals.
I used feed my four legged babies: -
boiled rice
veges peelings that were processed up
raw meat (mixture of chicken necks and red other meats)
Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
Joan,
Aren't your dogs already on the raw meat diet? I remember a thread we had last year on dogs.
I think the flagyl may be for the pancreatitis, not just the colitis. My sister's Yorkie had a bad reaction to Heartguard last year and it triggered chronic pancreatitis. She has to give her flagyl daily and she is also on a very low fat diet (fresh chicken). She's had no problem with it and it's very low dose.
The Dogtor J site is great, even if you don't have pets. His discussions are applicable to people too.
Hope her nose is cold and wet real soon.
Mary Beth
Aren't your dogs already on the raw meat diet? I remember a thread we had last year on dogs.
I think the flagyl may be for the pancreatitis, not just the colitis. My sister's Yorkie had a bad reaction to Heartguard last year and it triggered chronic pancreatitis. She has to give her flagyl daily and she is also on a very low fat diet (fresh chicken). She's had no problem with it and it's very low dose.
The Dogtor J site is great, even if you don't have pets. His discussions are applicable to people too.
Hope her nose is cold and wet real soon.
Mary Beth
Thanks for your concern everyone. She gets GF, DF, SF, and corn free diet. Wellness at first and Blue Buffalo now. Her breeder fed her Diamond (green) laden with corn. Because of the Dogtor J site and others, I was not about to feed her bad food. The other sites were Hub Pages-Ask Susan Peters and Sara Irrick's 100 point scale for dog food that the boarding kennel gave me. I also have the Whole Dog Journal food booklet. I studied it all like crazy before I switched her food.
The new vet likes Wellness so we'll go back to that even though the WDJ says to change up their food (slowly switching, of course).
The new vet likes Wellness so we'll go back to that even though the WDJ says to change up their food (slowly switching, of course).
DISCLAIMER: I am not a doctor and don't play one on TV.
LDN July 18, 2014
Joan
LDN July 18, 2014
Joan
