MC and bladder problems?

[natythingycolbery]

Just seeking reassurance here really while I wait for my appointment from the hospital.

I know that Pentasa can cause bladder problems but that this is VERY rare to happen, but I just wondered if MC can cause a bladder problems? I am sure that I have read somewhere that they can be, but I can't find this information anywhere.

Basically on thus when I went to wee it was an attractive shade of dark red, I rang my doctor and was sent to the hospital for bloods and a urine sample.

The bloods I could give willingly (Well kindof, I don't do needles) but the urine, that didn't happen, I didn't go to the toilet to pee from 2:30pm on the thursday when the blood first appeared till 12pm today when I left work (just under 24 hours).

The blood tests came back today and all that showed up on them was that I am slightly anemic (hello tio more daily tablets!) but nothing else was on them, so they are sending me to the hospital to have a kidney scan and something shoved into my bladder (I can't remember the posh name) to see what is going on.

I feel a bit like my entire life is revolving around the drs atm!

[Zizzle]

I'm not aware of a connection between MC and bladder problems. Sorry.
I hope it's nothing serious.

[tex]

Naty,

The only direct connection between MC and UTIs that I can think of, is dehydration. MC can certainly cause dehydration, and you are definitely dehydrated, of you can go without emptying your bladder for that long. That, (infrequent emptying), in itself, can lead to bladder/kidney issues. You definitely need to increase your fluid, (water), intake. They are probably looking for a kidney stone, or something of that sort, but you are pretty young for that sort of thing, and the pain should be rather intense, if you had a stone.

Anemia is very common with MC. You should try using sublingual B-12. Sublingual lozenges are designed to dissolve under the tongue, where the active ingredient can go directly into the bloodstream, thereby bypassing the malabsorption problem in your intestines.

Sublingual vitamins are available, which contain 1000 IU of B-12, combined with 400 IU of folic acid. Those vitamins are ideal for someone in your situation, (low on B-12, with malabsorption issues). The folic acid is there because the body cannot utilize B-12 unless an adequate supply of folic acid is available, and many of us are also short on folic acid intake. Wheat flour is enriched with folic acid during the milling process, so most people get adequate folate from baked goods. Folic acid is not added to most GF flours, though, so anyone on the GF diet, (and anyone who has a malabsorption problem), will tend to be low on folic acid intake.

There is another possible MC/UTI connection which tends to increase the risk of a UTI for females with MC, due to the possible accidental transfer of E. coli bacteria to the urinary tract, especially during episodes of "explosive diarrhea". E. coli are commonly present in the digestive tract, where their numbers are normally kept under control by adequate populations of "good" bacteria.

Good luck with the tests.

Tex

[natythingycolbery]

It has been confirmed to not have been cause by dehydration (even though i had 22 hours where i couldn't pee or to be an infection as the white blood cell count on the blood tests I had on tuesday and thursday stayed the same, the only thing that has changed was the level of iron, it's dropped to make me anemic so have been put onto Fersamal 420mg daily (2 210g tablets a day).

The Gp's just can't understand why I'm not in any pain, although I come from a family that does have a high pain threshold, yet surely I should be in some mild discomfort from it if it was a kidney stone?

I was also told i was likley to get anemia too due to MC so I knew i was gonna end up on iron tablets at some point as well as the multivits.

But thanks for your help in reassuring me!

[grannyh]

Have never had bladder problems with CC. As with my side effects from Reclast.. most of my problems during active D were from any drugs I took or something I ate.
grannyh

[hoosier1]

Naty,

Though I am male, I have a chronic pelvic pain/bladder condition that they think is like an interstitial cystitis. I am now convinced that my colon problems (LC) are likely the cause of my bladder pains and issues. I have had a full workup on my bladder, prostate, etc. and no organic problems could be found. But when my LC is acting up, my bladder is more painful and my urination is more frequent. My flow also slows during a flare. Haven't ever seen a change in the color of my urine though, except after a urological scoping (to be expected).

So I DO think there is a connection.

Rich

[tex]

But when my LC is acting up, my bladder is more painful and my urination is more frequent.

So I DO think there is a connection.

A connection between MC and bladder pain and function? Yes - most definitely.

That was a common problem for me, whenever I was reacting, but I always assumed the problem was due to my bloated guts crowding into the space normally used by my bladder as it expanded, thereby preventing my bladder from having any capacity. Since my surgerys uncovered a lot of adhesions, (especially the last one), I've wondered if bloated guts pulling against adhesions may have been a source of much of the pain that I had when I was reacting.

Have you ever had abdominal or pelvic surgery? Evidently the resulting scar tissue causes the development of adhesions, especially if you are already prone to developing them.

Another problem that I had while reacting, was that when these symptoms were at their worst, it was dangerous for me to try to empty my bladder in conventional male fashion - IOW, standing on my two hind legs. At times like those, being seated on a toilet was a prerequisite, because as soon as the urine started flowing, so would the "other stuff" It was almost as if the controls were connected.

Now this is a good example of a discussion that you're not likely to see on any other discussion board in the world.

Tex

[hoosier1]

Tex,

I recall learning something to the effect that your urological functions and your colorectal functions are both enervated by the same nerve bundle, or from the same vertebrae. Perhaps you can clarify? I know many people with pudendal nerve problems that share both urological and GI functional problems (and pain).

Rich

[hoosier1]

Tex,

No, I have not had abdominal surgery in the conventional sense. But, when I was much younger, I did have an interventional radiologist embolize some veins/arteries that flow blood to my pelvic region due to an varicocele. I often wonder if I also pool blood in my abdomen. CTs scans always show "pelvic congestion" in me.

Your guess is as good as mine.

Rich

[tex]

I recall learning something to the effect that your urological functions and your colorectal functions are both enervated by the same nerve bundle, or from the same vertebrae. Perhaps you can clarify?

I've never investigated that issue - maybe I need to check it out. It appears that I'm the only one here with that symptom. That could possibly be connected with my peripheral neuropathy.

Tex

[tex]

CTs scans always show "pelvic congestion" in me.

Hmmmmmmm. Ever had anemia?

Tex

[natythingycolbery]

Naty,

Though I am male, I have a chronic pelvic pain/bladder condition that they think is like an interstitial cystitis. I am now convinced that my colon problems (LC) are likely the cause of my bladder pains and issues. I have had a full workup on my bladder, prostate, etc. and no organic problems could be found. But when my LC is acting up, my bladder is more painful and my urination is more frequent. My flow also slows during a flare. Haven't ever seen a change in the color of my urine though, except after a urological scoping (to be expected).

So I DO think there is a connection.

Rich

Rich, See my LC is currently kindof under control (in the sense of i have had no D for a few weeks) so I don't know if it is actually related in the same way as you. although the fact I have now got bladder problems within a few weeks of my D being under control I do wonder if they actually are (which leads me to contradicting myself on this matter!)

My urine today hasn't had blood in, but it is VERY yellow compared to usual, and there has been some pain today, but i would compare it to a mild stomach ache rather than to the pain of a kidney stone or infection, unless the bleeding was due to someting moving (if it as a kidney stone and now i am going to start to feel it more.)

It just annoys me that, just as I get one medical condition under control, another one seems to crop up

[hoosier1]

Naty,

With your urine being so yellow, I wonder if you aren't a little dehydrated?

Rich

[natythingycolbery]

Naty,

With your urine being so yellow, I wonder if you aren't a little dehydrated?

Rich

I hope i'm not, i've been drinking 2 ltr of water a day like i have been recommended too since a month ago (well occasionally slightly less but not enough to be dehydrated), also on thursday at the drs I was told I wasn't dehydrated

[natythingycolbery]

Just an update on this, I'm deffo not dehydrated! whoot!

But the bloody NHS admin staff need shooting, they keep ringing to offer me appointments for an ultrasound/other tests on my kidney on days they already know I am not available (in the sense I am 80 miles away from York) I'm gonna start screaming soon!