I need help with ordering Entocort on line

[Gloria]

Is it true that it can be ordered direct from Sun Pharmaceutical without a prescription? If so, I'm thinking that I should start ordering some so I can stockpile. I'm not able to set any aside because I'm taking the full dosage.

Gloria

[tex]

Gloria,

I don't believe that you can order it directly from the manufacturer. You can get it here without a prescription, though:

http://www.inhousepharmacy.com/digestive/entocort.html

or you can order the generic equivalent from here:

https://www.alldaychemist.com/1283_Entocort-EC

I had never checked their home page before, but I just checked it, and found this statement, (to concur with what I had read somewhere else):

FDA has authorized its officers to use their enforcement discretion to allow residents to order certain products under certain limited conditions (a three months supply). Under this policy, the FDA may allow the residents to bring into their country drugs for their personal use for a serious condition, if there has been no commercialization or promotion of the drugs to the residents.

https://www.alldaychemist.com/

Apparently, a three month supply is considered to be a "safe harbor" limit. Note that the first site offers a 360 quantity lot, which would be a 4 months supply.

Tex

[Gloria]

Tex,
Thanks for posting these again.

The company that doesn't require a prescription charges approximately $1.89 per capsule, or $519 for 270 caplets. I pay $50 for 270 tablets under my insurance plan. That's a big difference, but the overseas company is charging considerably less than the price of it without insurance: $2685.

I don't think my GI will give me a second prescription so that I can stockpile.

I sure wish we knew what was negotiated with Big Pharma. I hate to spend a lot of money on a stockpile if I won't need it, but I don't put anything past this administration.

I've looked at my food diary, and it's possible that Entocort may be responsible for my latest improvement. I saw Norman approximately one month after going back to 3 capsules a day (increased from 3 capsules every two days, 2 capsules/day in-between).

Gloria

[Robbie]

I don't know if this has been discussed or not, since I'm new, but thought I'd share how I buy things with my Discover and Visa cards online and over the phone. Both offer virtual credit card numbers attached to the account that are generated online. When I order from a new company I create a number that, once used, can only be used by the same company in the future. With the Visa account I can also create a spending limit and expiration date (as little as a month - maybe two - not sure) for the virtual number. If something bad ever happened with a virtual number I can cancel the virtual number and not my plastic credit card. It can be a little confusing to keep track of the various numbers, but I feel it's worth it as it provides an extra layer of protection. Not all cards offer this feature, but I think most do. I've heard some offer a similar service but the number can only be used one time. Both of mine let me use the same virtual number with each company for as long as I like.

[Linda in BC]

Here's a little gem for you. I stopped taking the Low Dose Naltrexone about a week ago and had decided to give the Entocort a try because, while there was improvement at first, I seemed to have plateaued and just haven't been getting any better with the LDN. (Incidently I am worse without it so it must have been helping somewhat) Anyhow, I went to my doctor last week and asked him to write my a prescription for Entocort which he did. ( I am lucky.. he knows nothing about MC but does as I ask!) I took it to our local pharmacy ( Note: I live in Canada) and asked for the generic brand . The pharmacist told me there is no generic available for entocort and I said oh , yes there must be because a number of American people on my support forum get it online in Canada. After checking more he said his supplier told him they pulled the generic in Canada in 2007 and that he could not fill this prescription unless I wanted the regular Entocort which was something like $165.00 for 30 days. So I go online, get the phone # for Canadapharmacy.com.and try to order it by phone. Their -877 doesn't work for Canada because it turns out, they are located in the US. Ok. So I try Northerndrug.com and their # works for me but they tell me they cannot ship it to me in Canada. Customs won't let them (HUH???) This pharmacy is located in Toronto, Ont. Canada, according to their contact info, but they cannot ship me the drug in Canada. They can, however, send it to me at an American address, if I have one. It so happens I do have one as we are only 6 miles from the American border, but I if had lived elsewhere in Canada, I would have been out of luck! So I did finally get the order placed and hopefully will have my Budez CR in a few days. What all this tells me is that although they are saying that this is a Canadian pharmacy, it is not really. These drugs come from India or Cyprus or some other country. Personally, I have no problem with this. The LDN that I got from alldaychemist in India (which, btw, they mailed to some individual in the Us , who then mailed it to me) was absolutely fine and the prices are excellent. And part of me really relishes the opportunity to hold my middle finger up to the big pharmas and say, "I don't need you.. I'll get my drugs elsewhere at a reasonable price!" But I just thought I should make everyone aware, if you didn't know, that Canada has no generic entocort available either, ( Astro-Zenica put a stop to that, I guess) and that when you are ordering it online form
Canada, it is actually coming from another country first. NO big surprise, I suppose, since Charlotte did post that hers came from Sun Pharmaceuticals in India. Maybe I had misunderstood. I thought I could just go to any old Canadian pharmacy and get it. Or at least have it mailed to my home in Canada!

Regards, Linda

[tex]

The company that doesn't require a prescription charges approximately $1.89 per capsule, or $519 for 270 caplets. I pay $50 for 270 tablets under my insurance plan. That's a big difference, but the overseas company is charging considerably less than the price of it without insurance: $2685.

And they do sell branded Entocort EC, supposedly an exact match to what you are now using. I'm pretty sure that the other company supples the generic version of budesonide without a prescription, also, though I couldn't find that information in a quick search. It is a fact, though, that prescriptions are only valid in the country in which they are written, unless the doctor is licensed to practice in the respective additional countries, (which is not very likely).


Robbie,

I wasn't aware of that option, but it sounds like a good feature, to gain additional security.

Tex

[wonderwoman]

Linda,

The pharmacist is correct. There is no generic in Canada. You have to ask for Budesonide, or Budez CR

What all this tells me is that although they are saying that this is a Canadian pharmacy, it is not really. These drugs come from India or Cyprus or some other country.

I checked the box the drugs were shipped in and the return address is PO Box 7456 Blakelands Milton Keynes , UK (United Kingdom / Canada) The drug I assume was manufactured in India, then shipped to Canada, and a pharmacy in Canada distributes it through Canadapharmacy.com

The 6 individual boxes say Sun Pharmaceutical Industries, LTD, U.T. of Dadra & Nagar Haveli, India

Our mailman told me he delivers a lot of packages from them.

[Linda in BC]

It is all very interesting , isn't it? So I am wondering if I had had my doctor write the prescription out for Budezonide or budez Cr, would my regular pharmacy have been able to fill it?

[tex]

So I am wondering if I had had my doctor write the prescription out for Budezonide or budez Cr, would my regular pharmacy have been able to fill it?

Surely not, because AstraZeneca would have certainly filed a patent application in Canada, when they filed it in the U. S. Budez CR is a bootleg generic - illegal in all the countries for which patent law applies, (unless Canada has some unique loophole in the law, that would allow illegal foreign knockoff generics to be sold in the country).

Unless I am mistaken, no one has purchased Budez CR from a Canadian brick and mortar Pharmacy. Have they? The product that U. S. citizens have purchased from a Canadian brick and mortar pharmacy, is the branded product, genuine Entocort EC. Am I wrong?

Online pharmacies may be governed by exceptions to the law, for internet sales. The question is, are those online pharmacies claiming to be Canadian pharmacies, actually Canadian pharmacies? If they sell illegal generics, then I'm guessing that they are not.

Tex

[Linda in BC]

Yes, that is exactly what I concluded given that I, a Canadian, cannot buy from them unless I have it sent to the US.
L.

[natythingycolbery]

remind me to never moan that i can get 240 500ml pentasa tablets for £7.20 on prescription.

I really do feel for all you americans on here! But i'm glad you can find some alternatives

[Gloria]

Well, this is very interesting. What we're concluding is that Canada also enforces it's law that you can't purchase illegal drugs, ie. generic Entocort, just as the U.S. does. But Linda can order the product as long as she ships it to the U.S., not Canada. The U.S. is letting these shipments come it, but for how long? If the U.S. shuts down the shipments, then both Canadians and U.S. citizens will be out of luck.

When we are purchasing generic Entocort through an online Canadian drug store, we may or may not be getting the drug from Canada, but more likely, we're not.

JoAnn wrote that she ordered from both the Canada and the overseas pharmacies, and the product is the same. The only difference is that the Canadian one requires a prescription and the overseas pharmacy does not.

Gloria

[Linda in BC]

I ordered my LDN from alldaychemist.com in India and was quite satisfied with the whole transaction. Interestingly, it had to be shipped from India to their "associate' in the U.S. and then sent on , as a little personal type parcel, to me in Canada. The result was that took about three weeks to a month or more to get to me. I wanted this Entocort sooner than that, so that's why I went with the "Canadian ' online pharmacy. Otherwise I would have gone with AllDayChemist.com again. Their prices are certainly a lot better, I believe.

Linda

[gowest]

It was very interesting to read this topic, as my school health insurance ends this week and I'll be ordering online as well. I think I'll go with the Budez CR from Alldaychemist -- and soon, so I don't run out of current supply! Thanks everyone for the input and observations.