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All:
I found your responses to the stool types interesting. Thanks for responding.
Now I have another question. I have multiple BM's mostly in the morning that can tend to start formed and then become successively looser until I get to a type 6 or even a 7.
Does anyone else experience this?
Also, does anyone (perhaps Polly or Tex) understand why this occurs? Sometimes, it would seem if I could just stop with the first mostly formed BM of the day, I would be OK and my system wouldn't become further aggravated.
Rich
Stool Type Question Number 2 - Pun Intended
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Stool Type Question Number 2 - Pun Intended
"It's not what I believe. It's what I can prove." - A Few Good Men
Hi Rich! HAHAHAHA - number 2!
Yes, I have experienced this myself! Here is what I would guess the mechanism to be...........overnight we become somewhat dehydrated, since we are not eating or drinking for an extended period of time. Also, the gut usually has less motility when we sleep, so the BM sits longer in one place so that water can be resorbed from it. Thus, the initial BM (that part of the BM which has sat the longest in the gut) is somewhat firmer. But once it is eliminated, along comes the more liquid stuff. Unfortunately.
What do others think?
Love,
Polly
Yes, I have experienced this myself! Here is what I would guess the mechanism to be...........overnight we become somewhat dehydrated, since we are not eating or drinking for an extended period of time. Also, the gut usually has less motility when we sleep, so the BM sits longer in one place so that water can be resorbed from it. Thus, the initial BM (that part of the BM which has sat the longest in the gut) is somewhat firmer. But once it is eliminated, along comes the more liquid stuff. Unfortunately.
What do others think?Love,
Polly
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Hi Polly,
Good to hear from you!
I think you may have nailed it. That certainly seems to be the case for me. My gut is very calm as the day grows long. For me, it my GI could behave all day, like it does at night, I would right as rain.
Polly, since your theory subscribes to the BM sitting longer at night, isn't that the same mechanism of imodium (or is it lomotil)? I thought one of them stops or slows peristalsis and the other one helps the colon to absorb more liquid.
How are things in Maryland? I had a great conference out there a few weeks back but the gluten'ed me to death :)
Rich
Good to hear from you!
I think you may have nailed it. That certainly seems to be the case for me. My gut is very calm as the day grows long. For me, it my GI could behave all day, like it does at night, I would right as rain.
Polly, since your theory subscribes to the BM sitting longer at night, isn't that the same mechanism of imodium (or is it lomotil)? I thought one of them stops or slows peristalsis and the other one helps the colon to absorb more liquid.
How are things in Maryland? I had a great conference out there a few weeks back but the gluten'ed me to death :)
Rich
"It's not what I believe. It's what I can prove." - A Few Good Men
Rich,
I don't go most mornings now that I'm down to 1-2/day. I do on weekends. I do notice I get worse over the course of the day. The absolute worst time for me is late at night (I'm a night owl). If I stay up past midnight, I always end up with 1-2 explosive trips to the bathroom in quick succession. I've wondered whether that's the morning BM arriving early because I stayed up too late. Or whether screwing with my sleep cycle/serotonin levels is aggravating things. Or maybe because several hours have passed since dinner time and it's just the natural timing of my digestive cycle.
I don't go most mornings now that I'm down to 1-2/day. I do on weekends. I do notice I get worse over the course of the day. The absolute worst time for me is late at night (I'm a night owl). If I stay up past midnight, I always end up with 1-2 explosive trips to the bathroom in quick succession. I've wondered whether that's the morning BM arriving early because I stayed up too late. Or whether screwing with my sleep cycle/serotonin levels is aggravating things. Or maybe because several hours have passed since dinner time and it's just the natural timing of my digestive cycle.
1987 Mononucleosis (EBV)
2004 Hypomyopathic Dermatomyositis
2009 Lymphocytic Colitis
2010 GF/DF/SF Diet
2014 Low Dose Naltrexone
2004 Hypomyopathic Dermatomyositis
2009 Lymphocytic Colitis
2010 GF/DF/SF Diet
2014 Low Dose Naltrexone
Rich,
I believe that Polly is right on target with her analysis of what happens overnight. I often noticed the same pattern, when I was reacting.
Zizzle,
It's certainly possible that serotonin and maybe various hormones may be involved, because activity definitely affects the way the bowels perform, and the circadian clock is bound to play a part. I would suspect that as long as we are awake, the mode of operation in the gut is "business as usual", but when we sleep, as Polly mentioned, our enteric nervous system tries to respect our need for sleep, and modifies the operation of our digestive processes accordingly. Digestion continues, but at a slower pace.
Tex
I believe that Polly is right on target with her analysis of what happens overnight. I often noticed the same pattern, when I was reacting.
Zizzle,
It's certainly possible that serotonin and maybe various hormones may be involved, because activity definitely affects the way the bowels perform, and the circadian clock is bound to play a part. I would suspect that as long as we are awake, the mode of operation in the gut is "business as usual", but when we sleep, as Polly mentioned, our enteric nervous system tries to respect our need for sleep, and modifies the operation of our digestive processes accordingly. Digestion continues, but at a slower pace.
Tex
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