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Mary Beth wrote:Can't afford lipitor but can afford fast food??
Good point. Without the fast food, we probably wouldn't need the Lipitor. :lol:
Mary Beth wrote:As we all know some medications wouldn't be needed if behaviors changed. I find this issue very complex and think drug companies, insurance companies and consumers all need an overhaul.
I totally, agree, obviously.

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It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
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Tex......

HELP!! I've deleted Mary Beth's post that you replied to!! I'll try to get it back but if I don't...PLEASE HELP!!

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Although I agree that fast food can be the problem with cholesterol... mine started going sky high when I was much younger and thinner.. since none of my relatives are living or were living then... have no idea if they had the same problem.. doc figures it has to be genetics cause my diet was right...
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Hi Shirley,

I'm sorry, but I've searched the database, and I can't find it. The location in the database where it was stored, was probably overwritten, soon after it was deleted. :shrug:

Actually, aren't there two posts missing? I thought I started this thread - that looks like my subject line. If I remember correctly, the first post was about people abandoning prescriptions at their pharmacies. :lol:

Not to worry, we can probably survive without those posts. Unfortunately, deleting a post is almost always irreversible. If that's the worst thing you've ever done in your life, you're doing OK. :wink:

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Well, no wonder I couldn't find it. At least I feel better about that part.
I believe you are correct that 2 of them disappeared. I have no idea how it happened. I never meant to do that.

Mary Beth,
I'm so sorry I lost your post. I thought it had some very good points and I was trying to "quote" a line in my response. It went awry and I was trying to delete my post. Somehow your post and Tex's original post disappeared. Please forgive me.

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No worries Shirley! :smile:

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MB,

I did see the original posts and couldn't agree more with your comments about personal responsibility and priorties. I keep hoping that one of the good things to come out of these economic hard times will be that folks will be forced to re-evaluate what's really important. There is such an emphasis on THINGS in our society, the latest "toys" so to speak. I love technology, too, but for the life of me, I don't why we need hundreds of cable stations, a new phone every year with hundreds of "apps", etc. Too many choices aren't necessarily good for humans, IMHO. I believe they add to our stress......and I have seen some studies that document this. Personally, I have been on a kick recently to simplify my life, and it feels wonderful.

Ooops, sorry..........didn't mean to get on my soapbox!

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I too, appreciated your post very much which was why I was trying to respond. We are very much in agreement.

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Wow Polly,

We are on exactly the same wave length here on simplification of life. The gadgets are really non-existent for us since we have never acquired them to start with. Do not understand the whole phone app junk - absolutely not necessary. Eating out has always been minimal for us, the house has been purged of non-essentials and it is time for the basics to come back to life. We have never been really beyond basic that much but it is being done now in preparation for both of us being retired.

I think more people need to get back to basics - it is so much less stressful.

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We have also found alot of simplicity in the last few years and are enjoying a simpler life. Sometimes others don't understand but we don't mind.

I also hope that the economic strain helps people re-align their priorities and get their egos in check. The real challenge is working with the next generation - they are so incredibly overinduleged in every way imaginable.

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Nothing snaps one into a simpler life faster than unemployment. First time we went through it was over 20 years ago. Back then unemployment benefits were 12 weeks. We stopped all the extras and most never came back into practice. I love technology but my cell phone is rarely even turned on (it is a 10 yr old hand me down from one of our kids). They wanted us to have cell phones and we didn't want to have a contract.. so when son and wife upgraded (and changed carriers).. we took over their monthly bill.. turned it into our name.. no contract.. we can NOT surf the net or text with the darn things.. but we do use them to find each other in Walmart.. or the grocery store.. when one of us wanders off...LOL
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:grin: I'm with you on the use of the cellphone. I've got texting blocked too. Although mine will take pictures, I never have and probably never will. I'd have to "look it up in the book" every time I wanted to do it anyway. :grin:

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Polly,

Your statement about simplicity is profound and very accurate with respect to my goals. The last thing an MC'er would desire is more complexity, which IMO, leads to more stress.

In fact, I have been a follower and strong believer of Dave Ramsey for the last couple years (though my wife and I have always lived the Dave Ramsey lifestyle). Every time life tries to become more complex, I resist it. Living within one's means, per Dave (and common sense), promotes a less stressful life. It's all about needs vs. wants. No one needs the latest phone or 100 cable channels, at least according to Maslow.

I actually think the cleansing that is occurring in the US economy right now is a good thing. We have been a nation of excess and now our economy is trying to scale back (simplify) accordingly, I just wish our government would stay out of the way (off my soapbox). I also see the personal responsibility is a thing of the past. What a shame.

Mary Beth,

Another profound statement, "the over-indulged" youth. I simply do not understand this generation. A very self-centered lot IMO. Where is the work ethic? Why the entitlement (whoops, I know why). Makes me look very forward to retirement.

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Rich,

We are fans of Dave Ramsey as well . . . if you can't afford it, don't buy it. That sure cuts down on the overindulgences and really does lend itself to a simpler lifesyle. We also use his method with our son (age 11). He gets an allowance and he gets to spend some, save some and donate some. He has to manage his wants within his budget - works out beautifully. We started this when he was 6 because that's when the "I wants" started and mostly it was I "I want a video game". We told him he was responsible for saving for his games. He learned to save for games, trade in his old ones and buy used games. He never developed video game addiction like so many young kids who are enabled by their parentsv-mostly he wants to play outside and that is free!

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Mary Beth,

Another Dave Ramsey follower. Good for you! I think as a parent, and instilling the "Dave Ramsey" mentality into your children, you are indeed rare. What does Dave call allowance? I think he refers to it as a commission :) I love that and commend you for that. You are rare.

I can only think about what a treasure your son is, and what a great young man he will develop to be through the actions you are taking. He will have a built in sense of "lack of entitlement". He already knows the value of a dollar. I'd love to have young talent like that in my company. I am tired of having to "parent" the younger generation in the work place. I believe if they didn't learn those core values from their parents, there is nothing I can do to help them. The building blocks are not there. I am dealing with exactly such a situation with a young man at my company as we speak. And unfortunately for him, the outcome is not going to be favorable for him.

Dave equals simplicity. Who wouldn't naturally want to gravitate that way?

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