Some Random Thoughts On Longevity And GI System Diseases

Feel free to discuss any topic of general interest, so long as nothing you post here is likely to be interpreted as insulting, and/or inflammatory, nor clearly designed to provoke any individual or group. Please be considerate of others feelings, and they will be considerate of yours.

Moderators: Rosie, Stanz, Jean, CAMary, moremuscle, JFR, Dee, xet, Peggy, Matthew, Gabes-Apg, grannyh, Gloria, Mars, starfire, Polly, Joefnh

User avatar
tex
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 35349
Joined: Tue May 24, 2005 9:00 am
Location: Central Texas

Some Random Thoughts On Longevity And GI System Diseases

Post by tex »

Hi All,

Today, I attended the funeral of my last surviving uncle, on my fathers side of the family. He died at the age of 96. Both his brothers died of massive colonic bleeding, at a much younger age, one at 65, and I believe the other was 53. Apparently, his only major health issue occurred when he was in his late 80s. A section of his colon rolled over, and caused a blockage. The doctors were able to manipulate it back into the correct position, but a few days later, it happened again, so they did a Hartman proceedure on him, (a colostomy). Due to his advanced age, they were afraid to reverse it with a resection, so he was stuck with it for the rest of his life, much to his displeasure.

Anyway, while visiting with friends and family, I spent some time thinking about the effects of GI issues on longevity. It seems that my father died at the age of 65, due to massive colonic bleeding, (he received 113 units of blood, while in the hospital, but still bled to death). My grandfather died at the age of 62, due to a blood clot, following surgery for a knee injury, after he fell on a plow because his team of horses shifted position when he was climbing onto or off of it. But my great-grandfather apparently lived almost to the age of 101.

So I'm wondering when the GI issues began in the family. No conclusion can be reached regarding my grandfather, since he died from the complications of surgery. In my father's generation, though, 2 of 3 brothers had a bleeding problem which cut their lives short, and the other had a somewhat minor GI issue, which may or may not have contributed to shortening his lifespan. It definitely lowered his quality of life, so I'm guessing that it was a contributor.

I'm not sure where that leaves me, because my mother also had GI issues, (I'm guessing celiac disease, but her doctors were never smart enough to test for it, and it was off my radar, also, back in those days). So I'm guessing that I inherited those undesirable genes from both my parents, because I've been through not only years of problems with gluten, but also a serious bleeding episode. Since I no longer have a colon, (it was removed last February, as a result of the bleeding issue), and I'm following a strict GF diet, that should effectively undo most of the potential future effects of the bad genes, (I hope), so it will be interesting to see if I've also inherited any longevity genes, and if I have, how much their potency has been mitigated by the adverse digestive system genes. :shrug:

Love,
Tex
:cowboy:

It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
starfire
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 5198
Joined: Wed May 25, 2005 5:48 am
Location: Pennsylvania

Post by starfire »

First, I'm really sorry about your uncle, Tex. I know he live a long life but it's never easy to let someone go, age, etc. just doesn't matter.

I certainly wouldn't call the family history of bowel problems & bleeding coincidental. I can't help but feel that you "dodged the bullet" with the episode you survived (and I thank God you did). I hope the longevity gene is the only one that matters now.
:hug: :hug:
Love, Shirley
When the eagles are silent, the parrots begin to jabber"
-- Winston Churchill
Polly
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 5185
Joined: Wed May 25, 2005 3:34 am
Location: Maryland

Post by Polly »

Interesting musings, Tex (as usual!).

Funerals have a way of making us look at our own mortality, don't they? I am sorry your lost your uncle; as Shirley said, no loss is easy.

Longevity is so difficult to predict. One might have the genes and lifestyle to live to be 100, but suffer a serious injury/accident and die much earlier, as may be the case with your grandfather. Of course, there are too many factors involved in longevity to be able to sort them all out.

I am intrigued by the theory that various immune system "insults" eventually wear out the body...... that every infection, illness, and serious stress situation takes a chunk out of our immune system - maybe it causes shortening of those telomeres to make us age more quickly, who knows? The rates at which people age can be so different, too. Some people look 20 years older than their age, and vice versa. Scott's Uncle Mel just turned 100, and he does not look a day over 65 - has clear rosy skin without any wrinkles, and keeps up with a schedule that would exhaust me - plays bridge, travels, attends concerts and lectures - has something scheduled every single day! We recently tried to find a time to take him to dinner, and it took 2 weeks to find a date - because of HIS schedule, not ours. LOL!

One thing we can all agree on - "LIFE is a fatal disease".

Love,

Polly
Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.
User avatar
tex
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 35349
Joined: Tue May 24, 2005 9:00 am
Location: Central Texas

Post by tex »

Shirley,

I hope that I've dodged that bullet, too. When the surgeons mentioned that they were considering removing my colon, as the most reliable way to stop the bleeding, I didn't argue with them. Back when my dad and uncle went through that ordeal, their doctors kept thinking that they could stop the bleeding, but it always started again. In hindsight, if they had been more aggressive, and just removed the colon, early on, both patients probably would have lived for many more years. Once you lose enough blood, and become weak, you are in a poor position to survive a major surgical procedure of that type, and they both eventually reached that point, where surgery was no longer an option, because they were too low.

Polly wrote:One thing we can all agree on - "LIFE is a fatal disease".
:lol: That's for sure.

Speaking of ageing, during the last, roughly 3 or 4 years leading up to the point at which I finally figured out what was wrong with me, I swear I appeared to be significantly older, every time I looked in the mirror. :roll: I aged about 20 years during that time. Seriously. Going by appearance alone, after I started the GF diet, I was able to roll back about half of those years, but some of them were obviously permanent. The gray hair, for example, didn't go back to the dark brown color that it was previously. :lol:

Love,
Tex
:cowboy:

It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
User avatar
Joefnh
Rockhopper Penguin
Rockhopper Penguin
Posts: 2478
Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:25 pm
Location: Southern New Hampshire

Post by Joefnh »

Interesting topic... I have noticed that over the past 12 months that I have appeared to have aged several years. I have always looked about 10 years younger that I actually was. Over this past year and especially when the MC really kicked in , my hair really began to rapidly get a bit gray on the sides. Oh well so be it..

--Joe
Joe
starfire
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 5198
Joined: Wed May 25, 2005 5:48 am
Location: Pennsylvania

Post by starfire »

Gray hair doesn't look bad on men at all.

In fact it doesn't look so bad on women either. The silver brightening shampoo's today can make it nice & white. That's what mine mostly is now. I don't color or "rinse" it. Too much trouble. One of these days I'll have to get an updated picture of myself that I can stand and let ya'll know what I look like now. HaHa

Love, Shirley
When the eagles are silent, the parrots begin to jabber"
-- Winston Churchill
User avatar
tex
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 35349
Joined: Tue May 24, 2005 9:00 am
Location: Central Texas

Post by tex »

When my hair is wet, it still has a little color, but as it dries, it turns gray, and then white. :lol:

Tex
:cowboy:

It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
User avatar
Joefnh
Rockhopper Penguin
Rockhopper Penguin
Posts: 2478
Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:25 pm
Location: Southern New Hampshire

Post by Joefnh »

Well Tex nothing like a built in hygrometer. :lol:

-Joe
Joe
User avatar
hoosier1
Rockhopper Penguin
Rockhopper Penguin
Posts: 766
Joined: Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:09 am
Location: Indiana

Post by hoosier1 »

My gray hairs appeared "magically" this year too, coinciding with my MC I think. I have always said that I feel 20 years older than my actual age because of the MC (mostly the toxicity and pain I feel at times).

Tex, I am sorry for your loss. But I optimistically think that you are dodging many familial bullets as a result of your strict adherence to a non-inflammatory diet and the pro-active nature of your being. I personally feel I am now "hopefully" dodging the UC that consumed my grandfather (I just wish I had been diagnosed properly ten years ago). Additionally, my father died of a sudden heart attack at 54. None of the men in my family live past their 50's (all heart issues). So I run high cholesterol, etc. even though I have always been on the slender side all my life. So I do think about heart issues for me with respect to my mortality. I was even on a statin for a short while. Then, when the MC diagnosis arrived, I decided to tackle that problem. And with the help from you, and others on this board, I have learned that the GF, DF, SY diet is most likely heart-healthy too. Compared to what I used to eat, it has to be better.

My cardiologist told me, because I am thin and because of my family history, that it would be impossible for me to lower my cholesterol without statins. I took this as a challenge. In 6 months, I expect to see an improvement in my cholesterol levels. And to be frank, I can only deal with so much at one time. So the heart (perhaps foolishly) is taking a back seat to my GI for now.

Regards,

Rich
"It's not what I believe. It's what I can prove." - A Few Good Men
User avatar
hoosier1
Rockhopper Penguin
Rockhopper Penguin
Posts: 766
Joined: Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:09 am
Location: Indiana

Post by hoosier1 »

Joe, I was also told I used to look ten years younger than my actual age. I don't hear this anymore :)

Rich
"It's not what I believe. It's what I can prove." - A Few Good Men
Rosie
Rockhopper Penguin
Rockhopper Penguin
Posts: 746
Joined: Mon Jun 22, 2009 5:38 pm
Location: Tucson, AZ

Post by Rosie »

I was always a bit vain about my youthful appearance, but like the rest of you must admit that MC has taken its toll. I would look better if I were able to pack on a few more pounds.........

I'm reminded of the saying: You know you're getting old when people you haven't seen for a while tell you that you're "looking good" instead of you're "good looking"......... :wink:

Rosie
Our greatest weakness lies in giving up. The most certain way to succeed is always to try just one more time………Thomas Edison
User avatar
tex
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 35349
Joined: Tue May 24, 2005 9:00 am
Location: Central Texas

Post by tex »

Joe wrote:Well Tex nothing like a built in hygrometer. :lol:
Yep, I can always tell if it's raining, by checking my hair color. :lol:

Tex
:cowboy:

It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
User avatar
tex
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 35349
Joined: Tue May 24, 2005 9:00 am
Location: Central Texas

Post by tex »

Rosie,

And the next level is when we don't even hear, "you're looking good", any more. :lol:

Tex
:cowboy:

It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
User avatar
Joefnh
Rockhopper Penguin
Rockhopper Penguin
Posts: 2478
Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:25 pm
Location: Southern New Hampshire

Post by Joefnh »

I can see you running around in the rain with a mirror to see if its raining...

:lol:

Tex I am sorry to hear of our loss..


--Joe
Joe
User avatar
tex
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 35349
Joined: Tue May 24, 2005 9:00 am
Location: Central Texas

Post by tex »

Rich,

Are you aware that research shows that there is no cause and effect correlation between cholesterol level and the risk of death due to a cardiovascular event. Statins apparently work by suppressing the C-reactive protein level, which is a measure of inflammation. Reduced inflammation prevents heart attacks and stroke. Cholesterol helps to prevent infection and cancer, (I'm not aware that it has been shown to cause heart disease, despite all the doctors who incorrectly assume that it does). In older people, those with the higher cholesterol levels, live the longest, as a general rule.

http://www.americanheart.org/presenter. ... ifier=4648

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2564950

http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/ab ... 72/17/1335

Tex
:cowboy:

It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Post Reply

Return to “Main Message Board”