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Is This Weird, Or What?

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The government, (USDA's Agricultural Research Service), in it's infinite wisdom, (and it's even more infinite bankroll, thanks to all us suckers - AKA taxpayers), is sponsoring research to promote the use of MSG as a dietary aid, (to reduce obesity in this country). :shock: Note this quote from the article linked to below:
MSG has long been known to enhance the savory quality of foods and promote a positive emotional response (pleasantness) of eating. Regularly including MSG or foods naturally high in glutamate may help people to improve the quality and amount of their food intake, yet maintain the emotional and pleasurable qualities of eating.

The research is expected to add to the growing base of science around umami, widely accepted as the fifth basic taste in addition to sweet, sour, salty and bitter. Glutamate, an amino acid naturally found in many common foods such as tomatoes, cheese, and cured ham, is considered the purest form of umami. Recent research has identified umami receptors on the tongue. Providing a savory taste of its own, umami also enhances and balances the sensory experience of other tastes. MSG, the sodium salt of glutamate, improves the palatability of foods and has been widely used as a flavor enhancer for more than a century, initially in Asia and later globally. Significant research documents the potential value of MSG as an aid in reducing dietary sodium.
MSG is doubly appealing to them, because it can be used as a salt substitute, and the powers that be, are clearly on a dedicated campaign to wipe out the use of ordinary table salt in this country. After all, since it's no longer considered polite to sweat, we shouldn't need any salt. :roll:

OK, I admit to being an ignorant old county boy, but I fail to see the logic here. They're going to fight obesity, by making food taste better. :headscratch: I don't know about you, but the better food tastes, the harder it is for me to stop eating it, so I almost always tend to eat more, not less.

And they're going to replace ordinary salt, with another salt that has at least an equal potential for harm, and probably a greater potential, truth be known.

Also, note that virtually all foods contain some MSG, but the common foods that naturally contain significant amounts of it, (such as tomatoes, cheese, soy sauce, etc.), and additives that contain MSG, such as hydrolyzed vegetable proteins, autolyzed yeast, hydrolyzed yeast, yeast extract, soy extracts, and protein isolate, tend to cause problems for many of us, especially while our MC is active.

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases ... 78023.html

It's interesting to note that in the past, there have been numerous studies to investigate whether or not MSG causes obesity, but the results have always been inconclusive. Now they're setting out to prove that it reduces obesity. :headscratch: Anyone want to bet that since the government is sponsoring this one, the results will show that MSG is indeed an effective dietary aid in fighting obesity? :roll:

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Tex are they trying to reduce obesity or as the last line in the quote states reduce the sodium intake

"Significant research documents the potential value of MSG as an aid in reducing dietary sodium."

In reading the article it does talk about weight loss, and if I read in between the lines as it were, are they trying to make "less energy dense" foods taste better to reduce caloric intake.

Overall it does seem like a strange bit of research. We need to train out taste-buds to accept the proper foods and stop trying find the ultimate flavored 'bad' foods. This needs to start with teaching our children the right dietary habits and removing the quantities of junk food in the food chain.

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Joe,

Since the subtitle of the article is:
Studies to assess potential efficacy of MSG and umami on satiety and weight management
And their stated goal is this:
The trial, which will be conducted by ARS' Western Human Nutrition Research Center (WHNRC), will assess in overweight women whether adding sodium glutamate to foods facilitates the control of appetite and caloric intake, and prevents body weight rebound following a period of moderate energy restriction and weight loss.
I have to assume that their primary goal is to show efficacy in fighting obesity. I have no doubt, though, that they will also try to promote MSG as a salt substitute, since the goal of reducing sodium intake is already in place.

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IMO, the main problem with health management guidelines in this country, (at least the official ones - government, medical, pharmaceutical, etc., and especially the food industry), is that they are biased toward using more additives, more drugs, more nutraceuticals, etc., rather than eating simple whole foods, and using less additives, drugs, nutraceuticals, etc. All the more stuff is slowly killing us, and as long as the FDA continues to approve them, they are going to continue to proliferate.

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tex wrote: Anyone want to bet that since the government is sponsoring this one, the results will show that MSG is indeed an effective dietary aid in fighting obesity?
No way would I bet against that one!!! Governments do the most outrageous things. It's truly astounding (until you get numb).

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Our tax dollars at work.

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It's astounding.
Some people have really bad reactions to MSG. My mom feels like her hair is being pulled out if she eats MSG, and I have another friend who has gone into anaphylactic shock from MSG. Not something I want hidden in any more things than it already is!
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Interesting.

I get numbness of my TMJs from MSG. Go figure.

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As most of you probably recall, I started eating corn chips that contained a lot of MSG about last April, and by the middle of May, I was seeing auras, (defined as acephalgic migraines - migraines without the headache). It came to a head in July, when I had what appeared to be a transient ischemic attack, (TIA). My right arm and the right side of my face became numb. I stopped eating MSG about then, and I haven't had any auras, (or acephalgic migraines), since, but I had another possible TIA in May, of this year. :shrug: I still think the TIAs were connected with the MSG, but since I can't prove it, I'm following my doctor's advice and taking all sorts of stroke-prevention drugs, now, just in case. :sigh:

Obviously, IMO, MSG sucks. The strange thing is that many trials have been conducted, even with people who claim to be affected by MSG, and they are always inconclusive. Some of the trials show definite adverse reactions to pure MSG, (alone), in large doses, but when the MSG is added to food, mysteriously, the results are always either negative, or inconclusive. :shrug:

Here's a typical report, (again, from an agriculturally-affiliated research group):

http://www.truthinlabeling.org/farrp-viaAD.pdf

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Maybe they'll start sprinkling MSG on the healthy portions of school lunches that are traditionally shunned by the kids - the fruits and vegetables.

I have always responded badly to MSG, with D my whole life (not just after MC).

Most foods with MSG (chips, chinese food, processed food) are loaded with sodium too. It seems you can't have one without the other, but maybe they'll try.
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I don't know if you guys follow basketball but the other night on TNT before the game guys were complimenting Charles Barkley on losing weight and asked how he did it. He said, "Well, if it tastes good, I spit it out." :grin:
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:lol: :lol: :lol:

I'll bet that works.

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For me if I have any amount of MSG I get awful headaches and besides that I never get headaches.

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