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yesterday I almost made my first diet mistake. I was about to try dried figs. I had already one in my mouth, when I discovered "they are white" "why are they white" because there is flower on it" "what flower on it" äaaaaaaahhhhhh". I spitted it out and washed my mouth three or times with water (also spitting out).

I looks like it all went well. But so simple can a diet mistake be, if you not cautious 24 hrs a day.

Another question, does anyone here does have experience with dried figs. Are they okay for MC patients. I only ate little of it and it seems okay. I would be nice if I could add this to me diet. But I have the impression dried figs are rich of fiber. So if anybody has any advice on it, it would be very welcome.
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Harma that was a good catch on the color. I am not sure I would have thought about that. Its amazing how much gluten is in almost everything...


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Harma,

Maybe the powder was not wheat flour. I wonder if it might have been powdered sugar, or even corn starch, (or corn flour)? Hopefully it wasn't fungus.

Still, the rule is always - better safe than sorry. I've never even seen any dried figs, but I haven't searched for them, either.

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I just googled "Dried figs white coating" and discovered:

"Sometimes figs develop a white coating of crystallized natural fruit sugar on the surface. This does not affect the quality of the fig. Fluctuations in temperature and humidity will hasten sugaring"

http://www.californiafigs.com/about_figs_growing.php

Fig Nuggets are sometimes coated in rice flour. Phew!

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Post by Rosie »

Good catch, Harma! Constant vigilance is necessary, and being in a foreign country with different food customs makes it extra hard. Flour is used in a number of places to keep food from sticking together. For example, the already-grated cheese that comes in packages is coated with four.

Good luck with adding figs.....it's always feels like a victory when a new food can be added.

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Harma,

I was recently glutened at a Japanese restaurant. And I was trying so hard to be diligent. You know, rice and chicken and vegetables on the hibachi. Sounds pretty safe, doesn't it? Well I told the waiter to be sure not to use soy sauce due to the gluten, and I could tell he was a little confused about what I was asking about (lesson learned). Anyways, I did detect, as I was eating, the taste of soy sauce. I asked them to cook only on Olive Oil, and I simply think they mixed the two ingredients.

So I appreciate your pause when you see white powder. They just put that crap in and on everything.

Stay the course.

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I'd be cautious with the figs...

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Hi Harma;

Something about figs causing D. was ringing a bell with me when I read your post and sure enough, when I googled "figs and D" A few warnings came up..
Both fresh and dried figs are high in pectin, a soluble fiber that helps lower blood cholesterol. Figs may also have a laxative effect, so they are especially beneficial to people who suffer from chronic constipation; in others, however, overindulging can provoke diarrhea.
from this site http://www.readersdigest.ca/food/cms/xc ... 104_a.html
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They have a high content of mucin, which is a soothing laxative.
from this site :
http://www.healthy.net/scr/MMedica.aspx?Id=103

The main idea seemed to be to eat them sparingly if you don't want D.

I spent some time in Morocco when I was about 17 and I lived on figs and oranges while I was there as I can't stand spicy food and the food was very spicy. As soon as I got back to Spain, I had dysentery for 5 days and was very sick, so maybe that is why that bell was ringing in my brain :grin:

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Linda thank you, I stopped eating the figs, gave me not an upset stomach but upset colon (what is new). I thought maybe fiber, but pectin would me sense. I also discovered some kind of juice I can't stand well, I saw there was pectin added so I thought that would be the cause. Is pectin a kind of fiber?

I think I swallowed some gluten anyway, I am a bit bloated again and have that so uncomfortable feeling again inside. I will probably happen to all of us at some point (make a diet mistake). To be honest I am not that afraid of milk and soy, gluten frighten me the most. I think (for most of us) we react more severe to gluten than other things and takes longer time to get back to normal I guess.
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Harma wrote:Is pectin a kind of fiber?
Pectin is a carbohydrate, but it has special "jelling" qualities. It's used as a thickener when making fruit jellies.
Harma wrote:I think (for most of us) we react more severe to gluten than other things and takes longer time to get back to normal I guess.
You're correct. Gluten antibodies have a much longer half-life than antibodies for casein or soy, and because of that, gluten damage is more persistent than the damage caused by either casein or soy.

I hope you return to feeling normal again, very soon.

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Well it is okay, but I have sleeping problems again, due to upset bowels, it is no D, but something I have struggled with for years, it could be stress too, but almost anytime when my bowel is upset (I mean colon) there is almost always a food cause.

What you wrote about pectin tex, made me think about it. I have the idea that some type of juice also irritates my gut. I already thought of pectin. Since other tickeners like guar gom and carragen I can't stand (as many others here, as far as, I know. Sigh... another reason to check labels again. 100% fruit juice is a bit difficult to find here, well not really difficult, every shop has it, but you have to check all different types before you find the right one.

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WHY DO THEY ALWAYS HAVE TO ADD SO MANY OTHER USELESS INGREDIENTS TO SOMETHINGTHAT SIMPLE AS FRUITJUICE, WHICH HAS A FINE TASTE JUST AS FRUIT JUICE

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And I forgot to mention I have found rice milk here, even in several supermarket, what do you think in one case guar gom is added and in another case carrageen, same question WHY??????????? (it's rethorical question, I know the answer, to make the product "better","nicer taste", "enhanced quality" bladibla)
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But I am happy, thanks to the figs, I found another ingredient that bothers me, thank you Linda and Tex.
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Dear Harma
WHY DO THEY ALWAYS HAVE TO ADD SO MANY OTHER USELESS INGREDIENTS TO SOMETHINGTHAT SIMPLE AS FRUITJUICE, WHICH HAS A FINE TASTE JUST AS FRUIT JUICE
Sometime in the last 200 years buying "food" changed to buying "product" manufactured by the food "industry". IMHO, monopolistic practices in farming, supply and food retailing has caused this.

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Harma,

Apples, guavas, quince, plums, gooseberries, oranges and other citrus fruits, also contain large amounts of natural pectin.

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Post by Linda in BC »

Hi Harma,
I was thinking would it be possible for you to make your own fruit juices?
I (and I am sure everyone else on here) share your frustration with all the nasty things they add to "food" so I find myself making my own more and more. My DH and I have always leaned toward eating good home-cooked food and growing our own as much as possible, but trying to follow a GF, DF, SF, no -tapioca, quinoa and egg diet has made it imperative for me. And it has opened my eyes to the fact that we have become so dependent on most food preparation , (from raw state to finished product) being done for us, that even when it is a very simple thing to make our own of something, it doesn't even occur to us that we can, and we reach for a pre-made product. Things like applesauce, cranberry sauce, barbeque sauce, mayonnaise, nut butters, fruit juices, flours.... even almond milk ( as Gloria has shown us) or apparently even cooking oils!!! All of these can be made at home if you invest a bit in the right equipment.

I was buying all these very expensive alternative flours like rice, millet, and almond at the health food store even though I have my own grain mill which we bought to grind wheat, because it never occurred to me that I could grind my own of these flours too. What a revelation that was when I read on some internet site somewhere about a woman making her own rice flour with her grain mill… duh!!! !! And what a money-saver, too. Those flours are expensive compared to the cost of the raw product like rice!

I imagine some fruit is available and not too expensive in such a warm climate as Jordan, and maybe you could just make your own. For orange juice you really don’t need anything, just cut the orange in half and squeeze into a glass, or use one of those manual round orange juice things with a ribbed hump in the middle. For soft fruits, like berries or cherries, you can make your own simple juice press by taking two plastic buckets, with one that fits inside the other, punching holes in the bottom of the smaller one with a nail and a hammer, putting the fruit in it and pressing down. You can put a weight on it and leave it for a few hours too to get all the juice out. Then all you have to do is strain the juice and drink! You can freeze it too in small containers, and just take it out as you need it.
The other nice thing about making your own of anything is that it almost always tastes way better than the bought product.

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