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Did you give birth to a son before experiencing autoimmune problems or MC?

Yes
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69%
No
4
31%
 
Total votes: 13

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A poll only for mothers with MC or other autoimmune conditions.

Here's an article about microchimerism in autoimmune thyroid disease. My autoimmune issues began 3 months after the birth of my first child, a son. I've often wondered if his cells circulating in my body are creating all this mayhem. I don't have Hashimoto's, but my two friends with Hashimoto's also have sons.
http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/86/6/2494

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It raises the question of the possibility of the involvement of a "leaky placenta", (though that wasn't implicated in the "conclusions"). That makes me wonder if the tight junctions in the placenta are modulated by the same mechanisms involved with the leaky gut syndrome. I would guess that there is a very good chance that they are. That opens the door for all sorts of chemical "shenanigans" for mothers with autoimmune issues.

For example, it might be somehow connected with the relatively high female to male ratio of patients with CC. IOW, I wonder if most or all female patients with CC have given birth to a son, before their CC symptoms presented.
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Shouldn't this poll apply to CC only, because the female to male prevalence for CC is usually quoted at about 4 to 1? With LC, the odds seem to be approximately equal, (IOW, no gender preference).

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It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
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I don't know. I have LC and would expect to be counted. Don't we consider them to be the same disease anyway?
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The various types of MC are similar, and the symptoms and treatment are the same, but the initial cause may be different, (for all we know) - I thought that was what we're trying to establish. Of course, you have to remember that I don't consider MC to be a disease - I view it as a symptom, FWIW. :lol:

You may well be right, though, that it's possible for microchimerism to cause LC, even though that doesn't seem to fit very will with the gender prevalences attributed to the respective types of MC.

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Tex said
Of course, you have to remember that I don't consider MC to be a disease - I view it as a symptom, FWIW. Laughing
I agree... IMHO it is definition a symptom caused by multiple different diseases and/or conditions.

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Ok, I answered the poll question. I do have a son. I was diagnosed with LC and I am hypothyroid. However my son was about 40 years old before I sympomatic of either one, for what it's worth.............. I don't knowl.

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I have LC and CC. Am I the only one? My son was 14 when I started having symptoms.

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Post by GRB »

Now that I know about gluten intolerance and how the body reacts I can say with some certainty that I've had symptoms from adolescence. I didn't have the big D until my son was 37 and I was Dx with CC.
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I have LC. My oldest son was 27 when I first experienced symptoms.
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I should note that some people believe microchimerism serves to protect the mother, that fetal cells run around your body fighting free radical and diseased cells.
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I'm basically just commenting so when I have time in December to research microchimerism that this thread pops up. I just wanted to say that I have had what I think is a mild case of psoriasis (never diagnosed) from about 13 on, but I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism, which later revealed itself to be Hashimoto's, when my son was 14.
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Psoriasis is very common with MC.

Incidentally, are you aware that you can bookmark any thread? Simply click on the link in the upper left corner of the thread, that says, "Bookmark topic". To view all your bookmarks, just click on the link right above the "Potty People" logo, that says "Bookmarks". I use that feature a lot, to keep track of threads I might want to refer back to at some point in the future, especially if I think that they might not be easy to find, using the most logical keywords.

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It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
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Interesting. I don't have psoriasis, but apparently I have the genes for it. I googled my HLADQ 9 gene (DQB1*0303 ) and found it was most closely associated with psoriasis vulgaris. One more thing to try and prevent!!

Thanks for the bookmark tip. I hadn't noticed that either.
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