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I don't post very often but do check in about once a week to see how everyone is doing.
I looked up the recipe for a possible substitute for sports drinks on this board last night. It calls for 3 to 4 tablespoons of sugar, 1/2 tsp table salt, 1/2 tsp of baking powder, & 1 quart of water. I'm avoiding most sugars because I've been diagnosed with Type II diabetes recently. What do ya'll think about me mixing the table salt and baking soda mixture with diluted orange juice? The orange juice is diluted to a 1 to 7 ratio with plain water. Sometimes at work I'm outside 2 to 6 hours a day and need something besides sports drinks with sugar. I've drank Propel enough that I really don't care for it that much.
The diluted orange juice is from a weight loss program paid for by my employer. I drink up to 96 oz of this most days. That's the limit for diabetics on the program. On the hot days I need something to keep me from becoming dehydrated. I thought about adding 1/2 tsp of the salt & baking soda mixture to a quart of orange-water (they call it H2Orange). Also I thought about mixing 1/2 cup salt and 1/2 baking soda to have on hand at work. That way I could add a 1/2 tsp of the mixture to the about 1 quart H2Orange & take that with me when I'm outside. I could add a little bit of Stevia sweetener if needed to counter act the salt & baking soda taste if needed.
Thought I would post this message to see if any of you had used the recipe. I can't remember now who posted the original. I'm too lazy to look it up again! BTW the weight loss program works great. I lost over 20 lbs the first week & have lost about 6 more lbs in the last 6 weeks. I need to lose over 100 lbs to get close to a healthy weight so I have a ways to go. You eat the same "real" food when you are on maintenance as you do while you lose the weight. This is something I can stick with for the long haul!
I'm one of the few who did not lose weight when the MC symptoms started.
Take care
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Brenda, I'm not expert in this, and am new here, but wanted you to know that I didn't lose weight with MC, either. I'm not overweight, though am past my skinny days into middle age - but I remember noticing that weight loss was a symptom, and I didn't have that (till very recently, and only a few pounds, suddenly - I bet it was all water, and that's what you're trying to avoid).
Long ago when I danced a lot, I used dilute orange juice with a pinch of salt when exercising heavily in hot/humid weather. It helped enormously, and I didn't need to adjust the sweetness to compensate for the salt - I kind of liked it. I think if you are already tolerating the H2Orange, you could experiment just as you said, maybe starting with a smaller amount at first, to make sure you like it (and it likes you back).
I've also had great luck with coconut water, if you can tolerate that. It got me through the last couple of weeks, the flavor isn't overpowering, and it dilutes and blends well.
I'm a hydration fanatic - I haven't used the recipe, but I totally sympathize with the need to find safe, non-sugary ways to keep your fluids stable. I hope you'll let us know how it goes.
- Sara
Long ago when I danced a lot, I used dilute orange juice with a pinch of salt when exercising heavily in hot/humid weather. It helped enormously, and I didn't need to adjust the sweetness to compensate for the salt - I kind of liked it. I think if you are already tolerating the H2Orange, you could experiment just as you said, maybe starting with a smaller amount at first, to make sure you like it (and it likes you back).
I've also had great luck with coconut water, if you can tolerate that. It got me through the last couple of weeks, the flavor isn't overpowering, and it dilutes and blends well.
I'm a hydration fanatic - I haven't used the recipe, but I totally sympathize with the need to find safe, non-sugary ways to keep your fluids stable. I hope you'll let us know how it goes.
- Sara
Hi Brenda,
I believe that Polly originally posted that recipe, and she's the expert on that sort of thing, anyway, even if someone else posted it, so if she disagrees with what I post here, please disregard my post, and listen to her.
IMO, though, if you are already tolerating the diluted orange juice, I see no reason why you could not use it as a base for adding the other electrolyte ingredients, to suit your taste/needs.
Congratulations on the weight loss. It sounds as though you've found a plan that works, and it should continue to work for the long haul.
Tex
I believe that Polly originally posted that recipe, and she's the expert on that sort of thing, anyway, even if someone else posted it, so if she disagrees with what I post here, please disregard my post, and listen to her.
IMO, though, if you are already tolerating the diluted orange juice, I see no reason why you could not use it as a base for adding the other electrolyte ingredients, to suit your taste/needs.
Congratulations on the weight loss. It sounds as though you've found a plan that works, and it should continue to work for the long haul.
Tex
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Sarah,
Thanks for the reply. Probably will not try the coconut water while I'm trying to lose weight. The orange water doesn't bother my stomach and mixes well with several of the drink mixes like Crystal Light. I've been a proponent of hydration as well. In my less heavier days, I liked to road bike and enjoyed a spinning class a couple of days a week. Where I live there are lots of open space to ride but not many places to stop and refill your water bottle!
Take care
Thanks for the reply. Probably will not try the coconut water while I'm trying to lose weight. The orange water doesn't bother my stomach and mixes well with several of the drink mixes like Crystal Light. I've been a proponent of hydration as well. In my less heavier days, I liked to road bike and enjoyed a spinning class a couple of days a week. Where I live there are lots of open space to ride but not many places to stop and refill your water bottle!
Take care
Brenda
Hi Brenda,
The sports scientists do a lot of work looking at rehydration. It is a big topic in that world.
This 'position statement ' from the American College of Sports Medicine is probably a good guide.
http://journals.lww.com/acsm-msse/Abstr ... id.45.aspx
There are other studies that show a concentration of carbohydrate (sugars or maltodextrin) at 5 -10% gives the best results for athletes. Any more and it inhibits absorption. BTW, the salt flavour is meant to encourage you to drink more.
I reckon you would be right to use your diluted orange juice instead of the sugar.
You can always drink plain water, of course!! 96oz is a little less than 3 litres, and is a reasonable amount to drink per day if you are not doing extensive exercise in the heat. If you go above 4 litres you need to be careful as you can start to upset the salt balance in your body.
Pay attention to the colour of your urine. It will start dark and sort of cloudy in the morning, by later in the day it will be almost clear (or clear and bright yellow if you take B vitamin supplements). I was taught to aim to drink enough to get it clear by mid morning or lunch time at the latest and thereafter only drink enough to keep it clear.
Lyn
The sports scientists do a lot of work looking at rehydration. It is a big topic in that world.
This 'position statement ' from the American College of Sports Medicine is probably a good guide.
http://journals.lww.com/acsm-msse/Abstr ... id.45.aspx
There are other studies that show a concentration of carbohydrate (sugars or maltodextrin) at 5 -10% gives the best results for athletes. Any more and it inhibits absorption. BTW, the salt flavour is meant to encourage you to drink more.
I reckon you would be right to use your diluted orange juice instead of the sugar.
You can always drink plain water, of course!! 96oz is a little less than 3 litres, and is a reasonable amount to drink per day if you are not doing extensive exercise in the heat. If you go above 4 litres you need to be careful as you can start to upset the salt balance in your body.
Pay attention to the colour of your urine. It will start dark and sort of cloudy in the morning, by later in the day it will be almost clear (or clear and bright yellow if you take B vitamin supplements). I was taught to aim to drink enough to get it clear by mid morning or lunch time at the latest and thereafter only drink enough to keep it clear.
Lyn
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Brenda/Sara
i am another that didnt lose weight due to MC. The changes (due to MC) in the meds i take for hormonal issues have actually caused weight gain, that with the frequent symptom of bloating and i have had to set up a whole new MC friendly work wardrobe!
i am another that didnt lose weight due to MC. The changes (due to MC) in the meds i take for hormonal issues have actually caused weight gain, that with the frequent symptom of bloating and i have had to set up a whole new MC friendly work wardrobe!
Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
Gabe,
I'm glad you said that - I have to say, when I first started reading about gluten intolerance again, one of the symptoms every site mentions is weight loss... and I know it happens to many people, but it hasAs I'm recovering from my current episode,I seem to be losing 'water weight' - still getting up in the middle of the night to pee (gallons), after the D has slowed down and mostly stopped (and I"m no longer dehydrated). I certainly have been carrying a bit of middle-aged pudge into my 50s, but I also think some of the bloat, which I've had for some time, was a simmering, unrecognized symptom.
I've always been a huge water drinker (to the point where I wondered whether it might be excessive) - maybe that was some kind of protective trick the body was asking for... I know polydipsia can be a red flag for blood sugar problems, but to date I've never had those. I do wonder whether continuing unknowingly to eat foods that I don't tolerate caused thirst, or dry mouth, or whether it's just a personal quirk.
Brenda, best of luck with all aspects of your health, including the weight loss. I know several people who've been very successful with losing significant weight, and keeping it off, and it's an incredibly empowering accomplishment. When you're ready to try it, the coco water I use is called Zico, and it's 45 cal/cup, and I'm drinking it pretty diluted.
I'm glad you said that - I have to say, when I first started reading about gluten intolerance again, one of the symptoms every site mentions is weight loss... and I know it happens to many people, but it hasAs I'm recovering from my current episode,I seem to be losing 'water weight' - still getting up in the middle of the night to pee (gallons), after the D has slowed down and mostly stopped (and I"m no longer dehydrated). I certainly have been carrying a bit of middle-aged pudge into my 50s, but I also think some of the bloat, which I've had for some time, was a simmering, unrecognized symptom.
I've always been a huge water drinker (to the point where I wondered whether it might be excessive) - maybe that was some kind of protective trick the body was asking for... I know polydipsia can be a red flag for blood sugar problems, but to date I've never had those. I do wonder whether continuing unknowingly to eat foods that I don't tolerate caused thirst, or dry mouth, or whether it's just a personal quirk.
Brenda, best of luck with all aspects of your health, including the weight loss. I know several people who've been very successful with losing significant weight, and keeping it off, and it's an incredibly empowering accomplishment. When you're ready to try it, the coco water I use is called Zico, and it's 45 cal/cup, and I'm drinking it pretty diluted.
Brenda,
To keep hydrated when suffering a flare, I drink coconut water (pineapple flavor) and the brand is Vita Coco. It is very good. The other item I pickup up at the health food store is called "Ultima Replenisher", no sugar or sugar substitutes. It is a powder that you mix with water and is pretty good. It comes in a few flavors. It's also gluten free and non-GMO.
Hope this helps.
Nancy
To keep hydrated when suffering a flare, I drink coconut water (pineapple flavor) and the brand is Vita Coco. It is very good. The other item I pickup up at the health food store is called "Ultima Replenisher", no sugar or sugar substitutes. It is a powder that you mix with water and is pretty good. It comes in a few flavors. It's also gluten free and non-GMO.
Hope this helps.
Nancy
Nancy,
That replenisher sounds great - like something to keep in the 'toolkit' (as Joe says).
I also really like super-diluted, unsweetened cranberry juice. My husband and I call it "pink drink" - it's incredibly refreshing on a hot day, very slightly tart, and it looks gorgeous. Sometimes when I want another glass of wine, but know that's a bad idea, I have 'pink drink' instead, and it looks so lovely in a nice glass. Plus, I can take a little bit of unsweetened cran with me, and top it up with water when I get where I'm going. Here in NYC, we often travel on our feet (or subway/bus), so you either have to carry all your fluids for a long day, or keep stopping/buying/refilling... or risk thirst.
The unsweetened cran is on my list of things to reintroduce this week - I might even mix it with a dash of the coconut water, which I'm tolerating well and I think is really helping.
And now I'm wondering whether I should get a water filter, since our tap water is a huge part of my diet!
Sara
That replenisher sounds great - like something to keep in the 'toolkit' (as Joe says).
I also really like super-diluted, unsweetened cranberry juice. My husband and I call it "pink drink" - it's incredibly refreshing on a hot day, very slightly tart, and it looks gorgeous. Sometimes when I want another glass of wine, but know that's a bad idea, I have 'pink drink' instead, and it looks so lovely in a nice glass. Plus, I can take a little bit of unsweetened cran with me, and top it up with water when I get where I'm going. Here in NYC, we often travel on our feet (or subway/bus), so you either have to carry all your fluids for a long day, or keep stopping/buying/refilling... or risk thirst.
The unsweetened cran is on my list of things to reintroduce this week - I might even mix it with a dash of the coconut water, which I'm tolerating well and I think is really helping.
And now I'm wondering whether I should get a water filter, since our tap water is a huge part of my diet!
Sara