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Background: Bio Impedance (BIA) is a science that was originally developed for monitoring patients after surgery in a hospital setting. This science has even been used in several space missions to monitor changes to astronauts’ body composition. It is definitely painless and you don’t feel what is going on, leads are connected to your hands and feet and pass a very low voltage electrical current through your body.
Based on the history of acupuncture for thousands of years the intent of the treatment is to balance the Qi (chee) in the body which is to restore balance over the body part of this involves needles placed in required spot at the ankles and the wrists, cables are connected and this. This Scientific part of the acupuncture appealed to Joe! (again he has done research on this) and shows that thousands of years ago, balance of the currents in the body was seen as necessary for good health…
Back to BIA, by measuring the reactance (electrical charge holding capacity) and electrical resistance of cells, accurate and highly relevant information may be obtained about your body composition and your functioning at the cellular level.
I only gave the practitioner the basic information required to do the assessment, at this stage I was expecting a report about allergies, only when the results started to be reported of various conditions and symptoms that we discussed them did we expand into discussions about my comprehensive health and illness background based on what was coming up as major issues and medium level issues
The assessment was very accurate, it even picked up that i had had german measles/whooping cough as a child both of which are not common conditions to have.
The main issues to come up in order of intensity (high to low) parasite candida, inflammation, immune, colitis, vaccinations, liver, spleen, kidney,
Food wise we narrowed down the assessment to my main ingredients, sweet potato came up as high sensitivity, most others were low, one or two were medium. She said it was rare that people had low sensitivity to everything, most people have quite a few ingredients that have no sensitivity. Based on joes research post this appointment and the inflammation associated with MC we think that for MC types then the assessment may always be low as the lowest marker. I proceeded to reduce the intake of sweet potato and have all foods in equal quantities (very much like Glorias eating plan)
At this stage on the basis that i thought this was only an assessment tool, i was quite surprise when she said lets start the treatment, i replied um how is that done? She said the same way, again this is where joe’s research may better describe what happens, but my description treatment is done via the ion reaction to the cells it can eliminate free radicals and encourage cell repair.
In my case i was sitting in a chair you are not aware that anything is happening (some practioners ask you lie down) A bit like acupuncture this can not cure conditions or eliminate MC from my body, what this is doing is assessing the health of my gut and helping to fix various health issues that are putting pressure on the immune system and compromising the function of the cells and organs in the body. In my wholistic health type attitude, if we fix the issues, that means that I have a healthy body and immune system the intensity of immune reactions like MC should reduce considerably.
With this new knowledge the treatments via BIA and the supplements i am/will be taking are not just focussing on MC, it is also helping the hormonal issues (Poly Cystic Ovarian Disease) as the medications i take for this are having impact on my digestion, it is not a major or big issues, but it is part of the mix.
That was appointment number one. I was quite enthused about this and if it did prove to work then it removes the need for me to travel to Brisbane for acupuncture appointments. For me the proof was going to be in the ‘winning the pooh’ diary over the next three weeks. So i reduced the amt of sweet potato i was consuming so it was no more than the other vegetables, reduced my sugar intake by a vast amount.
I am not sure if it was the reduction of sweet potato or the sugar and coffee, but within a week the GERD was vastly improved, no more waking up at night in killer pain (thanks tex for the hint about no sleeping on the right side as well) i noticed that the candida symptoms (itchy butt) were also abating.
At the conclusion of the first treatment we talked about supplements, at this stage i had been there about 1.5 hours, we then spent about 40 minutes reading various manufacturers information books about ingredients ensuring that the products were GF/SF/YF and ideally DF (casein and lactose) and didn’t have ingredients that could cause issues based on my MC intolerances (ie Garlic ) also ones that didn’t have too many ingredients ie keep it to max 4 – 5. We also aimed our search for powders so that i could try small amounts and not set off MC reactions and work gradually up to the required dose.
the appointment cost me $90 and i got $30 back from my health fund so it was a $60 outlay.
3 weeks later i go back for session 2. Assessment results: candida was no longer a major issue (woo hoo!) but there was still virus activity in the gut and pathogens and free radicals so hence the colostrum supplement (which i am tolerating 1/6th of a teaspoon quite well, working up to a teaspoon a day dose)
There was quite a few other things came up which were on the list last time, immune is always in the top 10. Food sensitivity wise, no food was highly sensitive so again woo hoo, the revised eating plan is working and that is evident just be listening to my body and noting things in the winning the pooh diary.
The practitioner explain that various inputs such as metals in workplace or environment or mercury fillings have impact on cell health, vaccines and illnesses also impact cell health and leave an imprint. The BIA works through the layers, most of what is coming up now is related to situations of the past 8 years.
this appointment cost me $40 out of pocket.
I cant guarantee that this will work for everyone, or that your practitioner will work the same way as mine does. For me this is affordable, and giving great results and i see it as something that was meant to be as part of my recent move! Joe can not wait to get to Oz and try it! He was quite upset that he couldn’t do this in April when he is here (it is Easter long weekend so not available) my attitude is that anything that is helping my wellness, giving me information about my health and what issues are there that is affordable is worth it like the MRT.
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Moderators: Rosie, Stanz, Jean, CAMary, moremuscle, JFR, Dee, xet, Peggy, Matthew, Gabes-Apg, grannyh, Gloria, Mars, starfire, Polly, Joefnh
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Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
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Dalai Lama
Fascinating, Gabes. Thanks for explaining it.
Did they get all of the info just from those leads placed on your hands and feet? IOW, did they have to move them around? Have you had any luck finding safe supplements/powders? That seems to always be a challenge for us. You should have minimal intereference from environmental influences - you had told us you keep your computer and radio outside your bedroom. The best news is that you are seeing improvement. YAY!
Love,
Polly
Did they get all of the info just from those leads placed on your hands and feet? IOW, did they have to move them around? Have you had any luck finding safe supplements/powders? That seems to always be a challenge for us. You should have minimal intereference from environmental influences - you had told us you keep your computer and radio outside your bedroom. The best news is that you are seeing improvement. YAY!
Love,
Polly
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To weigh in here on the science side of things. Ever since my first experience with acupuncture last summer, I have been amazed at how relevant this ancient practice is in the face of modern western medicine. Acupuncture is first described as a development occurring in the Chinese neolithic error in roughly 4000 BC, it was originality derived from a practice called bian shi or sharp stone treatment and was more like acupressure techniques. At around 1200 BC advances in metal forming techniques in the region allowed for the creation of sharpened needle like objects and a treatment called bian zhen. This form of treatment and early research is what has given birth to the modern practice of acupuncture.
The Chinese and other Asian cultures of the time have done some of the most complete mapping of the neural pathways of the body, that have just recently over the past 100 years with modern medicine found to uncannily accurate and useful. Lets remember that the human body as we now know it is a bio electrical machine. Every action that our brains call for happens due to the conduction of very small electrical charges through the nerve pathways in the body. This includes every muscle and nerve input from head to toe. Every organ in our bodies is controlled through electrical signals and reports its condition to the brain using electrical signals. A good example of this is how an electrical charge can make a muscle contract and jump. That's why a cardiac pacemaker for example uses a battery and when needed supplies a small charge to the heart muscle in cases where the electrical signal form the brain to the heart has been compromised.
Every sense that we have hearing, touch, sight, sound and smell are all reported to the brain using small electrical charges that the sensory organ produces when stimulated. We are a collection of bio-electrical wires (nerves) and a computer our brain.
What acupuncture does is to map the 'wiring' of the human body and then with knowledge of what happens if you stimulate or suppress a wiring pathway you can cause changes in how our bodies function. The Chinese use the term chi (Qi) which means energy. Again thousands of years ago they understood that energy... what we call electricity, was responsible for the bodies functions. I find that amazing.
Now that we understand and have proven that the body is a bio-electrical 'machine', along comes NASA's doctors using this knowledge creates the medical science called bio-impedance feedback or analysis. Which using a very sensitive volt meter can measure and with a tiny electrical charge stimulate the body. The rate of change or frequency of stimulation AND the resultant change noted is how the BIA system can make measurements and subsequent analysis. This is no differrent than what has been done in electrical circuits for 100 years or more, we look at the impedance as it relates to a change in electrical charge and make a measurement and analysis.
The initial use of Bio-Impedance Analysis (BIA) was to monitor the health of astronauts during the long space missions and has been part of the sensors that an astronaut wears since the Apollo missions.
As mentioned we are essentially a bio-electrical machine (I know impersonal term) and what we eat and drink changes the electrical balance of our bodies. A good example of this is when we become dehydrated. During dehydration 2 things happen first the amount of available water in the body drops, but also the amount of essential minerals starts to fall, usually through perspiration or urination. These essential minerals. potassium, calcium and sodium are very important to the body in conducting electricity, hence the term we see on sports drinks electrolytes. Those minerals and salts change the impedance of the body, a higher concentration lowers our electrical impedance and a lower concentration raises our impedance. So now we can measure and monitor the effect of taking in a substance to our bodies. This was the first step in BIA as it related to determining what the effect was of eating or drinking something.
In BIA you can actually measure the difference it makes when you have enough or too little of these compounds. Going further in time, they now have noted that by looking at the signals more carefully they can start to detect the difference that result in stresses to the body, by for instance the foods we eat. By mapping what these signals look like you can start to tell if someone is reacting to a specific food by looking for a particular signal. In principal this is not much different than MRT testing, its just in MRT testing you measure the chemical response to a food element. In BIA you monitor the electrical response for that chemical change. In both cases the electrical or the chemical change is what is measured and how our bodies process and react to a particular substance.
Overall this level of BIA is still relatively new and was only possible with the advent of the computers we enjoy today, as the signal analysis even 20 years ago would not be practical in a small clinical setting, and is currently rapidly advancing due to the technological advances that we have enjoyed over these past recent years.
Overall I am very excited about what this area of medical science offers, and I would expect that as this is developed and understood further, that it will become a more widely used technique. Remember though, the same gatekeepers that can and do block advances that we see here like with gluten sensitivity, are the same group that would influence and allow this to become a mainstream tool (to a degree).... and lets remember this is a non-intrusive, no pills required treatment, therefore inexpensive.... Meaning there is not much money to be made from it. I may be a bit cynical but too often its the money to be made that determines a treatments acceptance.
For more information a good book about this is:
http://www.med-tek.no/pc-80-18-An-antho ... dance.aspx
There are currently several phase 1 and phase 2 diagnostic studies underway in northern Europe and in the States. I am eagerly awaiting the results
--Joe
The Chinese and other Asian cultures of the time have done some of the most complete mapping of the neural pathways of the body, that have just recently over the past 100 years with modern medicine found to uncannily accurate and useful. Lets remember that the human body as we now know it is a bio electrical machine. Every action that our brains call for happens due to the conduction of very small electrical charges through the nerve pathways in the body. This includes every muscle and nerve input from head to toe. Every organ in our bodies is controlled through electrical signals and reports its condition to the brain using electrical signals. A good example of this is how an electrical charge can make a muscle contract and jump. That's why a cardiac pacemaker for example uses a battery and when needed supplies a small charge to the heart muscle in cases where the electrical signal form the brain to the heart has been compromised.
Every sense that we have hearing, touch, sight, sound and smell are all reported to the brain using small electrical charges that the sensory organ produces when stimulated. We are a collection of bio-electrical wires (nerves) and a computer our brain.
What acupuncture does is to map the 'wiring' of the human body and then with knowledge of what happens if you stimulate or suppress a wiring pathway you can cause changes in how our bodies function. The Chinese use the term chi (Qi) which means energy. Again thousands of years ago they understood that energy... what we call electricity, was responsible for the bodies functions. I find that amazing.
Now that we understand and have proven that the body is a bio-electrical 'machine', along comes NASA's doctors using this knowledge creates the medical science called bio-impedance feedback or analysis. Which using a very sensitive volt meter can measure and with a tiny electrical charge stimulate the body. The rate of change or frequency of stimulation AND the resultant change noted is how the BIA system can make measurements and subsequent analysis. This is no differrent than what has been done in electrical circuits for 100 years or more, we look at the impedance as it relates to a change in electrical charge and make a measurement and analysis.
The initial use of Bio-Impedance Analysis (BIA) was to monitor the health of astronauts during the long space missions and has been part of the sensors that an astronaut wears since the Apollo missions.
As mentioned we are essentially a bio-electrical machine (I know impersonal term) and what we eat and drink changes the electrical balance of our bodies. A good example of this is when we become dehydrated. During dehydration 2 things happen first the amount of available water in the body drops, but also the amount of essential minerals starts to fall, usually through perspiration or urination. These essential minerals. potassium, calcium and sodium are very important to the body in conducting electricity, hence the term we see on sports drinks electrolytes. Those minerals and salts change the impedance of the body, a higher concentration lowers our electrical impedance and a lower concentration raises our impedance. So now we can measure and monitor the effect of taking in a substance to our bodies. This was the first step in BIA as it related to determining what the effect was of eating or drinking something.
In BIA you can actually measure the difference it makes when you have enough or too little of these compounds. Going further in time, they now have noted that by looking at the signals more carefully they can start to detect the difference that result in stresses to the body, by for instance the foods we eat. By mapping what these signals look like you can start to tell if someone is reacting to a specific food by looking for a particular signal. In principal this is not much different than MRT testing, its just in MRT testing you measure the chemical response to a food element. In BIA you monitor the electrical response for that chemical change. In both cases the electrical or the chemical change is what is measured and how our bodies process and react to a particular substance.
Overall this level of BIA is still relatively new and was only possible with the advent of the computers we enjoy today, as the signal analysis even 20 years ago would not be practical in a small clinical setting, and is currently rapidly advancing due to the technological advances that we have enjoyed over these past recent years.
Overall I am very excited about what this area of medical science offers, and I would expect that as this is developed and understood further, that it will become a more widely used technique. Remember though, the same gatekeepers that can and do block advances that we see here like with gluten sensitivity, are the same group that would influence and allow this to become a mainstream tool (to a degree).... and lets remember this is a non-intrusive, no pills required treatment, therefore inexpensive.... Meaning there is not much money to be made from it. I may be a bit cynical but too often its the money to be made that determines a treatments acceptance.
For more information a good book about this is:
http://www.med-tek.no/pc-80-18-An-antho ... dance.aspx
There are currently several phase 1 and phase 2 diagnostic studies underway in northern Europe and in the States. I am eagerly awaiting the results
--Joe
Joe
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I should also add that as this device can assess things like body mass, fat and lipid levels etc, that due to the money making "weight loss" market there are 'simplier' versions of BIA that only look at data relative to weight loss and muscle content.
in my search to see how widely BIA is used/available about 50% of it was related to weight loss management.
my practitioner focuses on digestion issues in general and also does quite a bit of work with children that are autistic or have learning difficulties, the BIA assessment/treatment and implementation of GF diet has helped these children alot (and the parents)
in my search to see how widely BIA is used/available about 50% of it was related to weight loss management.
my practitioner focuses on digestion issues in general and also does quite a bit of work with children that are autistic or have learning difficulties, the BIA assessment/treatment and implementation of GF diet has helped these children alot (and the parents)
Gabes Ryan
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Polly (and anyone else who is interested) a quick update
i am handling the colostrum powder very very well, I am now taking full dose. I had small amount of gas for the first week i took it and now there is no obviouis reaction.
i am having full dose of the potassium powder and the days i dont take it i do get small amount of gerd (i missed taking it today due to back to back meetings and by mid afternoon some mild gerd symptoms appeared)
the cooler autumn weather has arrived, cold and flu season has started and whooping cough is prevelant for quite a few students at various schools so i have upped my dosage of the D3, Zinc, and B12 to support the immune system.
I missed my lymphatic drainage massage last week as i got held up in brisbane in a client meeting (my first one on my own so it was a bit nerve racking)
i have my 3rd appointment for the bio impedance this weekend.
If you are interested in trying the colostrum powder, let me know i can send some over with Joe in April.
i am handling the colostrum powder very very well, I am now taking full dose. I had small amount of gas for the first week i took it and now there is no obviouis reaction.
i am having full dose of the potassium powder and the days i dont take it i do get small amount of gerd (i missed taking it today due to back to back meetings and by mid afternoon some mild gerd symptoms appeared)
the cooler autumn weather has arrived, cold and flu season has started and whooping cough is prevelant for quite a few students at various schools so i have upped my dosage of the D3, Zinc, and B12 to support the immune system.
I missed my lymphatic drainage massage last week as i got held up in brisbane in a client meeting (my first one on my own so it was a bit nerve racking)
i have my 3rd appointment for the bio impedance this weekend.
If you are interested in trying the colostrum powder, let me know i can send some over with Joe in April.
Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
Hi Gabes,
Sounds as if things are going well, in spite of having to miss your massage. Hope the client meeting went well.
Are you taking the bovine colostrum? I really appreciate your offer to send me some but think I'd better pass for now. Currently, everything is going so well gut-wise that I probably shouldn't rock the boat.
Also, I'm not sure I would tolerate it as well as you, since I seem to be more highly sensitive to cow's milk than anything else. I was checking it out on WIKI and it did caution against taking it if one has allergies or intolerances, like lactose. If I take even a sip of milk I will have battery acid D within 2 hours. Also, I know that colostrum has a mild diarrheal effect (one of its purposes is to help the baby to pass its first BM), and knowing MY gut, it would happen. I must have the most sensitive gut on the planet. Sigh.
Anyway, I am thrilled that you have found the right mix of treatments for now. It takes an open mind and lots of trial and error but is well worth it, isn't it? And thanks so much for thinking of me.
Love,
Polly
Sounds as if things are going well, in spite of having to miss your massage. Hope the client meeting went well.
Are you taking the bovine colostrum? I really appreciate your offer to send me some but think I'd better pass for now. Currently, everything is going so well gut-wise that I probably shouldn't rock the boat.
Also, I'm not sure I would tolerate it as well as you, since I seem to be more highly sensitive to cow's milk than anything else. I was checking it out on WIKI and it did caution against taking it if one has allergies or intolerances, like lactose. If I take even a sip of milk I will have battery acid D within 2 hours. Also, I know that colostrum has a mild diarrheal effect (one of its purposes is to help the baby to pass its first BM), and knowing MY gut, it would happen. I must have the most sensitive gut on the planet. Sigh.Anyway, I am thrilled that you have found the right mix of treatments for now. It takes an open mind and lots of trial and error but is well worth it, isn't it? And thanks so much for thinking of me.
Love,
Polly
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Joe
the main reason i am taking the colostrum is for
a) parasite, pathogen and free radical removal (ie reduce the amount of damaged cells in the digestion tract)
b) build the immune system via high levels of IGg
like acupuncture it wont cure the condition but it will boost the health of the digestion system and immune system to cope with what these condtions are doing to our bodies
there are quite a few studies on the net (via google search)
i am lucky that dairy is not my worst trigger so i am able to tolerate the trace amounts of casein and lactose proteins that are in there.
the main reason i am taking the colostrum is for
a) parasite, pathogen and free radical removal (ie reduce the amount of damaged cells in the digestion tract)
b) build the immune system via high levels of IGg
like acupuncture it wont cure the condition but it will boost the health of the digestion system and immune system to cope with what these condtions are doing to our bodies
there are quite a few studies on the net (via google search)
i am lucky that dairy is not my worst trigger so i am able to tolerate the trace amounts of casein and lactose proteins that are in there.
Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
Gabes/Joe,
BIA has been around a while. I used it in the 80s to measure body fat percentage on clients when I worked at a weight loss clinic. From what I remember, the test was incredibly easy to perform but results for that were definitely skewed by hydration status. How is that corrected for when measuring food sensitivity? How does the presence of inflammation from sources other than food skew the test?
I'm a bit baffled by how BIA works for food sensitivity. If you haven't recently eaten a particular food, how can it measure response to that food? With MRT your blood is exposed to an antigen and the test measures the response - I can visualize measuring that response (reactance) with BIA. Can BIA give a graded response like MRT. I am wondering about the sensitivity and specificity of the test.
Of course a non-invasive approach would be very appealing to many people. Since this technology is out there I am certain that at some point a potential client will ask me to describe the difference between the two tests. Can you direct me to some info specifically on food sensitivty testing? I like to keep up with new technologies but this is one I haven't heard of, at least not for this purpose.
Thanks,
Mary Beth
BIA has been around a while. I used it in the 80s to measure body fat percentage on clients when I worked at a weight loss clinic. From what I remember, the test was incredibly easy to perform but results for that were definitely skewed by hydration status. How is that corrected for when measuring food sensitivity? How does the presence of inflammation from sources other than food skew the test?
I'm a bit baffled by how BIA works for food sensitivity. If you haven't recently eaten a particular food, how can it measure response to that food? With MRT your blood is exposed to an antigen and the test measures the response - I can visualize measuring that response (reactance) with BIA. Can BIA give a graded response like MRT. I am wondering about the sensitivity and specificity of the test.
Of course a non-invasive approach would be very appealing to many people. Since this technology is out there I am certain that at some point a potential client will ask me to describe the difference between the two tests. Can you direct me to some info specifically on food sensitivty testing? I like to keep up with new technologies but this is one I haven't heard of, at least not for this purpose.
Thanks,
Mary Beth
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Mary Beth the earlier and now simpler system used 1 or 2 frequencies for the excitation phase of the measurement. The newer systems can use hundreds of different frequencies. The basic systems looked only at the basic calculations that were very sensitive to hydration status of the patient. The systems were initially developed to monitor hydration status for the astronauts during the Apollo missions.
The next and more important issue is the computer horsepower. The computers today are thousands of times more powerful than the ones in the 80's. This is very important in that the 'magic' of the newer systems is the multitude of frequencies that can be simultaneously sampled and the discrimination of the signals that are being returned. The analysis of those signals is what allows these systems to look at reactionary levels that are found in food intolerances. The CPU power required to do this has not been available until the last 5 - 7 years.
-Joe
The next and more important issue is the computer horsepower. The computers today are thousands of times more powerful than the ones in the 80's. This is very important in that the 'magic' of the newer systems is the multitude of frequencies that can be simultaneously sampled and the discrimination of the signals that are being returned. The analysis of those signals is what allows these systems to look at reactionary levels that are found in food intolerances. The CPU power required to do this has not been available until the last 5 - 7 years.
-Joe
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MaryBeth
i will get some information from Helen (practitioner) when i go on Saturday.
we did test ingredients that i have not had for over 12 months and some did come up with medium sensitivity.
based on the articles Joe and I have read, we suspect that for IBD's there will always be 'inflammation' in the readings and potentially mild sensitivity to all ingredients, my thinking is for an IBD patient any that are medium or high might be the equivalent of non IBD persons low and mild (consecutively)
I went there for the allergy testing, but am finding the assessment information ie what are the top 10 issues, doing the BIA treatment, then doing the supplements at home, then at the next visit i am getting insight into progress.
i will get some information from Helen (practitioner) when i go on Saturday.
we did test ingredients that i have not had for over 12 months and some did come up with medium sensitivity.
based on the articles Joe and I have read, we suspect that for IBD's there will always be 'inflammation' in the readings and potentially mild sensitivity to all ingredients, my thinking is for an IBD patient any that are medium or high might be the equivalent of non IBD persons low and mild (consecutively)
I went there for the allergy testing, but am finding the assessment information ie what are the top 10 issues, doing the BIA treatment, then doing the supplements at home, then at the next visit i am getting insight into progress.
Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
It's all very interesting. I did a quick google search and found clinical applications for BIA with cardiac output monitoring, hemodialysis, lymphedema, and potentially even finding the margins on cancerous tumors. Certainly the science will grow. And certainly the machines used in these clinical settings are quite different than the ones found at health clubs. But, I have no doubt that because BIA machines are so readily availble in health clubs etc that there will be some misuse or overstatement of the capabilities by non-professionals.
Any info that you can share would be helpful. I am always open minded about new technologies. And I do beleive that the brain/body connection, epigenetics and qi are at the heart of healing processes. I am very interested in reading books on the connection of science, spirituality and healing.
Mary Beth
Any info that you can share would be helpful. I am always open minded about new technologies. And I do beleive that the brain/body connection, epigenetics and qi are at the heart of healing processes. I am very interested in reading books on the connection of science, spirituality and healing.
Mary Beth
"If you believe it will work out, you'll see opportunities. If you believe it won't you will see obstacles." - Dr. Wayne Dyer
Amen to Mary Beth's last paragraph!
Please, everyone, continue to post here whenever you have more info on BIA or any other "alternative" therapies. I am anxious to learn as much as I can, too. Wouldn't it be wonderful to have totally non-invasive treatments for most of our illnesses?
Gabes, I am very impressed with what I have read about the potential for colostrum, especially its GI and immune-promoting effects. I wish I weren't so milk-sensitive. Keep us posted on your progress.
Love,
Polly
Please, everyone, continue to post here whenever you have more info on BIA or any other "alternative" therapies. I am anxious to learn as much as I can, too. Wouldn't it be wonderful to have totally non-invasive treatments for most of our illnesses?
Gabes, I am very impressed with what I have read about the potential for colostrum, especially its GI and immune-promoting effects. I wish I weren't so milk-sensitive. Keep us posted on your progress.
Love,
Polly
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Polly & Mary Beth. I have been researching this with Gabes and have found the technology to be quite fascinating. There is a good book which covers this area of medical science and can be found at:
http://www.med-tek.no/pc-80-18-An-antho ... dance.aspx
It also appears that a lot of the recent advancements have been developed at Dartmouth University right here in New Hampshire by a Ryan Halter
http://engineering.dartmouth.edu/facult ... alter.html
He has been advancing this science and has written several papers in boundary definitions for cancerous tumors using BIA.Overall it appears that the multi-frequency approach has yielded the main advancements in this area of science. It also appears that the majority of research in advancing this area of science has been led bu the Norwegian and Swedish research universities. They have collaborated with MIT Medical and Dartmouth University for a lot of the clinical trials involving this technique.
https://www.journals.uio.no/index.php/b ... File/50/71
http://www.elsevier.com/wps/find/bookde ... escription
Primer for the basics of BIA
Note pages 142 - 145 for a good explanation about the core science and engineering behind BIA. This example looks at measuring tissue health in periodontal disease, but the principals are the same throughout the body
http://books.google.com/books?id=v_iFcK ... ay&f=false
Gabes you certainly are a trailblazer in this endeavor, thanks for making us aware of this amazing area of science.
--Joe
http://www.med-tek.no/pc-80-18-An-antho ... dance.aspx
It also appears that a lot of the recent advancements have been developed at Dartmouth University right here in New Hampshire by a Ryan Halter
http://engineering.dartmouth.edu/facult ... alter.html
He has been advancing this science and has written several papers in boundary definitions for cancerous tumors using BIA.Overall it appears that the multi-frequency approach has yielded the main advancements in this area of science. It also appears that the majority of research in advancing this area of science has been led bu the Norwegian and Swedish research universities. They have collaborated with MIT Medical and Dartmouth University for a lot of the clinical trials involving this technique.
https://www.journals.uio.no/index.php/b ... File/50/71
http://www.elsevier.com/wps/find/bookde ... escription
Primer for the basics of BIA
Note pages 142 - 145 for a good explanation about the core science and engineering behind BIA. This example looks at measuring tissue health in periodontal disease, but the principals are the same throughout the body
http://books.google.com/books?id=v_iFcK ... ay&f=false
Gabes you certainly are a trailblazer in this endeavor, thanks for making us aware of this amazing area of science.
--Joe
Joe
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Joe
no trailblazing here, it was a pure fluke. I was jealous of the USA based MC'ers being able to access MRT and sought out some allergy assessment, i went to the appointment with the expectation that if the allergy testing was half as good as MRT it was better than nothing. It was a very pleasant surprise to see and realise what the BIA could mean for me attaining wellness.
Polly it is a real shame that dairy is such a volitile irritant.
with the Colostrum, it was the immune support that really appealled to me, i had been 'propping up' my immune system with supplements for 5 years or more and never got it 'really good'. i am confident that the IGg will turn my immune system into wonder woman status.
the natural therapy based research my 'support team' and I have done in relation to IBD's, where there has been chronic symptoms and inflammation, is that there is not point taking pro-biotics to encourage good gut flora until all inflammation is gone or greatly reduced, leaky gut is healed, the pathogens are removed, and your body is on the way to rebuilding damaged cells.
the colostrum is the like the preperation you do before painting the wall, get rid of the rough edges, fill in the gaps so when the paint goes on it goes on correctly.
we have 12 month plan that takes us from prepping the wall to doing the final coat, each stage will take about 3 - 4 months.
no trailblazing here, it was a pure fluke. I was jealous of the USA based MC'ers being able to access MRT and sought out some allergy assessment, i went to the appointment with the expectation that if the allergy testing was half as good as MRT it was better than nothing. It was a very pleasant surprise to see and realise what the BIA could mean for me attaining wellness.
Polly it is a real shame that dairy is such a volitile irritant.
with the Colostrum, it was the immune support that really appealled to me, i had been 'propping up' my immune system with supplements for 5 years or more and never got it 'really good'. i am confident that the IGg will turn my immune system into wonder woman status.
the natural therapy based research my 'support team' and I have done in relation to IBD's, where there has been chronic symptoms and inflammation, is that there is not point taking pro-biotics to encourage good gut flora until all inflammation is gone or greatly reduced, leaky gut is healed, the pathogens are removed, and your body is on the way to rebuilding damaged cells.
the colostrum is the like the preperation you do before painting the wall, get rid of the rough edges, fill in the gaps so when the paint goes on it goes on correctly.
we have 12 month plan that takes us from prepping the wall to doing the final coat, each stage will take about 3 - 4 months.
Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama