Good news for Vitamin D advocates
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Good news for Vitamin D advocates
Just when the IOM declared we don't have a Vitamin D deficiency problem (suggesting 600 IU/day is enough), now this:
Low Vitamin D Levels Tied to Obesity in Kids
Fat accumulates as concentrations of the nutrient fall, and these changes differ by race, study finds.
http://www.healthfinder.gov/news/newsst ... cID=652411
And this:
Low Vitamin D Levels Linked to More Aggressive Breast Cancers
Study supports notion that maintaining healthy levels of the nutrient is key to patient outcomes.
http://www.healthfinder.gov/news/newsst ... cID=652370
I need to remember to take my D3 every day!!
Low Vitamin D Levels Tied to Obesity in Kids
Fat accumulates as concentrations of the nutrient fall, and these changes differ by race, study finds.
http://www.healthfinder.gov/news/newsst ... cID=652411
And this:
Low Vitamin D Levels Linked to More Aggressive Breast Cancers
Study supports notion that maintaining healthy levels of the nutrient is key to patient outcomes.
http://www.healthfinder.gov/news/newsst ... cID=652370
I need to remember to take my D3 every day!!
Hi Zizzle,
Even though I ordered a good supply of vitamin D from Freeda a while back, I have not taken a single pill. It seems that every time I take any kind of pill, I have a reaction, so I'm so very reluctant to take anything. I'm low on B12 and B6 according to my neurologist, so those two are sitting with crossed legs right next to the D
. At least I tried those, but had my quite predictable big D. reaction.
Anyhow, we get a lot of sun here in Colorado, and I have started a regimen where I make sure to get at least half an hour a day of sun on my body. It is giving me a nice uptick in energy level, which I can definitely use.
Love,
Kari
Even though I ordered a good supply of vitamin D from Freeda a while back, I have not taken a single pill. It seems that every time I take any kind of pill, I have a reaction, so I'm so very reluctant to take anything. I'm low on B12 and B6 according to my neurologist, so those two are sitting with crossed legs right next to the D
Anyhow, we get a lot of sun here in Colorado, and I have started a regimen where I make sure to get at least half an hour a day of sun on my body. It is giving me a nice uptick in energy level, which I can definitely use.
Love,
Kari
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Kari
i have found that i tolerate supplements as liquid and powder mixed in liquid far far better than tablets
my VIt D is a liquid, made by BIO-Ceuticals each drop has D3 333.31IU
http://www.bioceuticals.com.au/product. ... ductid=237
I am able to tolerate the three drops once a day, in the beginning i started with 1 drop once a day then 1 drop twice a day and then 1 drop three times a day (that took me about 6 weeks) to get the dose up to full dose
this company makes a liquid b12 and i have seen a B complex liquid at my health food store i will grab the manufacturer name.
f you want to try some i am happy to post some over to you.
i have found that i tolerate supplements as liquid and powder mixed in liquid far far better than tablets
my VIt D is a liquid, made by BIO-Ceuticals each drop has D3 333.31IU
http://www.bioceuticals.com.au/product. ... ductid=237
I am able to tolerate the three drops once a day, in the beginning i started with 1 drop once a day then 1 drop twice a day and then 1 drop three times a day (that took me about 6 weeks) to get the dose up to full dose
this company makes a liquid b12 and i have seen a B complex liquid at my health food store i will grab the manufacturer name.
f you want to try some i am happy to post some over to you.
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Hi Gabes,
Thank you so much for your kind offer. I will do some checking on my end to see if there is something comparable available here. I would definitely like to supplement B12 and B6 if I can find a way that agrees with me. Thanks for the "heads up"- will keep you posted on how it goes.
Love,
Kari
Thank you so much for your kind offer. I will do some checking on my end to see if there is something comparable available here. I would definitely like to supplement B12 and B6 if I can find a way that agrees with me. Thanks for the "heads up"- will keep you posted on how it goes.
Love,
Kari
"My mouth waters whenever I pass a bakery shop and sniff the aroma of fresh bread, but I am also grateful simply to be alive and sniffing." Dr. Bernstein
Zizzle,
Thanks for the links - those are good articles. The second one repeats this out-of-date bit of misinformation:
That used to be true, when people wore loincloths most of the time, and rarely took a bath, but these days, too many people go out of their way to avoid the sun, and if they do absorb any direct sunlight, they wash off the oils that are generated on the surface of their skin, before the vitamin D conversion can be completed, (it takes from 24 to 48 hours for the conversion to be completed). The public would be far better served, if the "experts" stopped repeating that obsolete information, without including the necessary details. Probably, the reason that most of them don't including the qualifying details, is because they don't understand the necessary details.
Yes, it can be done, but few people in the "developed countries" actually derive a "decent" amount of vitamin D from the sun, these days.
I spend several hours most days, working in the sun, and I live in sunny Central Texas, but I take a vitamin D supplement yearround, (2500 IU in the summer months, and 4500 IU the rest of the year), because I work in a hot, dusty environment, so I thoroughly clean my hide, every night.
Tex
Thanks for the links - those are good articles. The second one repeats this out-of-date bit of misinformation:
.Vitamin D is found in certain foods, but humans synthesize most of the nutrient they need via the action of sunlight on exposed skin. Supplements can also boost levels of vitamin D
That used to be true, when people wore loincloths most of the time, and rarely took a bath, but these days, too many people go out of their way to avoid the sun, and if they do absorb any direct sunlight, they wash off the oils that are generated on the surface of their skin, before the vitamin D conversion can be completed, (it takes from 24 to 48 hours for the conversion to be completed). The public would be far better served, if the "experts" stopped repeating that obsolete information, without including the necessary details. Probably, the reason that most of them don't including the qualifying details, is because they don't understand the necessary details.
I spend several hours most days, working in the sun, and I live in sunny Central Texas, but I take a vitamin D supplement yearround, (2500 IU in the summer months, and 4500 IU the rest of the year), because I work in a hot, dusty environment, so I thoroughly clean my hide, every night.
Tex
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Gabes & Kari,
I also take a liquid D3 supplement from Carlson. One drop is 2000IU - I take more in the winter, and on days whether the weather's iffy or I don't get out much, but I do take at least one drop year-round most days. (Like Tex, when I'm out working, dirt is often involved... and therefore, so is bathing!)
The amount of the drop is so much less than even the small pill I was taking, that may be one reason why I haven't noticed a problem with it, in addition to the ingredients. The other ingredients as listed on iHerb.com: Fractionated coconut oil. (Kari is that on your no-way list? I've seen other brands, will keep an eye out...)
I have seen several liquid Bs, too. I so wish they wouldn't add flavoring, and other concerning ingredients. I do believe the Bs make a difference to me, all the more so now.
And thanks to both of you - I bought a liquid magnesium (& other minerals) supplement that's meant to be taken orally, but I'm using it topically. I figured if it was supposed to be consumable, it was less likely to contain something that would bother me on the outside. I think I like it... and the man in the health food store explained how you can make your own, using magnesium chloride that's high-grade enough for use in tropical fish tanks (those tropical fish need very particular conditions). I have more reading to do before I give that a try.
If the topical magnesium is having a placebo effect - I'll take it. I even tried a few drops in my lemon water (10% of the recommended dose, and I'm not going to increase it much any time soon, if ever).
Hope you're all feeling great, and enjoy that sunshine even though it's not quite enough for the vitamin-D factory,
Sara
I also take a liquid D3 supplement from Carlson. One drop is 2000IU - I take more in the winter, and on days whether the weather's iffy or I don't get out much, but I do take at least one drop year-round most days. (Like Tex, when I'm out working, dirt is often involved... and therefore, so is bathing!)
The amount of the drop is so much less than even the small pill I was taking, that may be one reason why I haven't noticed a problem with it, in addition to the ingredients. The other ingredients as listed on iHerb.com: Fractionated coconut oil. (Kari is that on your no-way list? I've seen other brands, will keep an eye out...)
I have seen several liquid Bs, too. I so wish they wouldn't add flavoring, and other concerning ingredients. I do believe the Bs make a difference to me, all the more so now.
And thanks to both of you - I bought a liquid magnesium (& other minerals) supplement that's meant to be taken orally, but I'm using it topically. I figured if it was supposed to be consumable, it was less likely to contain something that would bother me on the outside. I think I like it... and the man in the health food store explained how you can make your own, using magnesium chloride that's high-grade enough for use in tropical fish tanks (those tropical fish need very particular conditions). I have more reading to do before I give that a try.
If the topical magnesium is having a placebo effect - I'll take it. I even tried a few drops in my lemon water (10% of the recommended dose, and I'm not going to increase it much any time soon, if ever).
Hope you're all feeling great, and enjoy that sunshine even though it's not quite enough for the vitamin-D factory,
Sara
Wow Tex - the amount of accumulated knowledge you possess will never seize to amaze me. Thanks for the important extra bit of information. Fortunately, the air here in Colorado is so dry that showering every day is actually more harmful than beneficial. That's quite a change from NYC, where I always felt the need to shower at least once a day :).
Sara - your post is very timely for me - thanks. Yesterday, at the Natural Grocers, I was trying to think of the word "magnesium", but came up blank. I'm hunting for the magnesium liquid, which will hopefully help with the "restless legs". I think I'll make a trip over there again today, to check for the liquid B's and magnesium. If I can get my hands on supplements that I don't react to, I'll be a happy camper, and in good shape for my upcoming trip :).
Love,
Kari
Sara - your post is very timely for me - thanks. Yesterday, at the Natural Grocers, I was trying to think of the word "magnesium", but came up blank. I'm hunting for the magnesium liquid, which will hopefully help with the "restless legs". I think I'll make a trip over there again today, to check for the liquid B's and magnesium. If I can get my hands on supplements that I don't react to, I'll be a happy camper, and in good shape for my upcoming trip :).
Love,
Kari
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I am having a conversation with my MD through his nurse about tests I want to take. Since I had a good Vitamin D test last year, he didn't want me to have one this year, which I thought was a little strange, especially since preventative medicine is his thing. But since I have changed what I do for Vit D (and am much more consistent), I want to have the test anyway to see what my level is now.
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Collagenous Colitis - Sept 2010
Granuloma Annulare - June 2011
Marliss,
You have a curious and scientific mind - I bet your doctor gets curious along with you. Of course you'd want to know whether the level's gone up - and certainly, if it hasn't!
I truly wish I'd had mine measured last year. It's on this year's list of bloodwork, which I was about to do right before I got so sick. Next week...
Kari, I'll be interested to know how your magnesium research goes. I didn't post everything the health-food store fellow told me, because I don't even know his name, much less his knowledge level. But he did refer to a book by Dr. Carolyn Dean, all about magnesium, so you might swing by the library on your errands - I haven't done that yet, but it's "on my list." (Around here, "on my list" is something my husband says all the time, but of course he doesn't actually use a list...)
Love,
Sara
You have a curious and scientific mind - I bet your doctor gets curious along with you. Of course you'd want to know whether the level's gone up - and certainly, if it hasn't!
I truly wish I'd had mine measured last year. It's on this year's list of bloodwork, which I was about to do right before I got so sick. Next week...
Kari, I'll be interested to know how your magnesium research goes. I didn't post everything the health-food store fellow told me, because I don't even know his name, much less his knowledge level. But he did refer to a book by Dr. Carolyn Dean, all about magnesium, so you might swing by the library on your errands - I haven't done that yet, but it's "on my list." (Around here, "on my list" is something my husband says all the time, but of course he doesn't actually use a list...)
Love,
Sara

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