BIA Testing Experiences

Joefnh · Post by **Joefnh** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 11:58 am

Well folks while visiting with Gabes, I had the opportunity of working with a local BIA practitioner that deals with the analysis of dietary intolerances and other medical analysis in relation to your overall health.

The visit was very simlar to an initial consultation with a doctor in that basic information is talked about.. Height, weight, age etc...

After the initial questions a computer controlled set of sensors are applied to to each wrist and ankle as well as your forehead. The system which uses multiple RF frequencies works through a process of excitation of a particular RF frequency in differing combinations of the 5 sensors that were applied. The premise is to sense the responses along the meridian conduction paths.

Overall the process takes about 20 to 30 minutes and is not noticeable. During this time the practioner looks at several areas. For my visit the first item was addressed was food intolerances. I had not mentioned to Helen any of my intolerances and when asked I mentioned that I was hoping that this process will help me figure that out.

Here is a comparison of the highly reactive foods for both the MRT and BIA testing

...........MRT .BIA .Actual

Onions .N .Y .Y
Wheat .N .Y .Y
Soy .Y .Y .Y
Tilapia .Y .Y .Y
Eggs .Y .N .N
Mustard .Y .Y .N ?
Cola Nut .Y .Y .Y
Rice .Y .Y .Y

These results were from the food insensitivity section and to say the least I was floored at how accurate this test is. I will have admit I was very careful not to mention any of my known sensitivities to Helen even when asked as I wanted the test to be as objective as possible. The results were presented to Helen on the computer screen directly so there was no chance of interpretive error in looking at 'raw' data.

For the next segment she looked at other health issues and picked up on some interesting results:

First it was noted that I had issues with my C6 vertebrae, frankly I had forgotten about this, but I have some slippage at this junction that occasionally causes a pinched nerve sensation. As I mentioned this to Gabes I initially told her that is was my C7 but after getting home, I looked at my records and it is my C6.. Interesting

Next the system mentioned that my thyroid is low, now during blood tests this past year it did show up as low but just on the low end of normal. This was scheduled to be re-tested in May.

I was again quite impressed as this again was just a direct readout and not a result of a question / answer session. I have no idea how this accomplishes this task

Finally the system is able to using the RF excitation able to help reduce the amount of isomers in the system, also known as free radicals. While using basic electrolysis one can theoretically do this, I am not sure how using RF excitation can do this. I do know that after this stage was running for about a minute I did not feel the greatest. This apparently is normal as these toxins are released.

Overall I was quite impressed with this testing and plan to look into this further once the move is over.

I had asked Gabes if there were other practitioners in the area or in the States. After some google searches Gabes found the following few examples of other locations that offer this type of service

Ontario Canada
http://www.tws4health.com/bio-energetic ... ty_testing

Virginia
http://www.thenutritionandwellnesscente ... rition.php

Texas
http://www.drkantipong.com/the-evaluation-process.html

Florida
http://healthsourcemanatee.com/nutrition.html

Arizona
http://www.naturemedica.net/index.html

North Carolina
http://stevenswellness.com/custom_conte ... iques.html

Southern California
http://functionalhealth4u.com/Services.html

While I cannot speak for the quality of services at these facilities, given the relatively low cost and at least the initial accuracy that I experipenced, I would definitely recommend this form of dietary intolerance testing.

To say I was impressed would be a an understatement...

As time goes on and after the move, I plan on pursuing this further. I will update this post

Joe

Post by **tex** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 12:59 pm

Hmmmmmm. Well, I agree, it certainly had an impressive test run, on a subject who knows what he's doing, so either the test has a lot of merit, or the coincidences were at an astronomical level.

So what is it measuring by means of those RF signals? Neurotransmitter response? Changes in serology/chemistry? Changes in physiological factors, such as heart rate, BP, respiratory rate, oxygenation rate, etc.? All of the above? Or????

Thanks for the report, and all the associated research, links, etc.

Tex

Gabes-Apg · Post by **Gabes-Apg** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 2:49 pm

RE finding a practioner,

Firstly with the set up of google, it is not easy to search USA only when you have an aussie IP address, so the hunt for good practioners was not easy, i did notice that there were quite a few people in the USA using the weightloss only type model of BIA.

doing a google search for "allergy BioImpendance XXXX" the XXX's being your town name or a largish city near you will help to find a practioner.
If you are going to try BIA, when talking to them, make sure they can do the allergy assessment via the BIA (and not the other allergy testing devices)

Like Joe did, if you have done MRT and/or Enterolab then dont mention these results and see what the BIA results say.

Ideally for a control for our experiement, i would love to have a really fit athelete type who had a really healthy life to date ie no major illnesses or conditions as a child and adult to do all three tests.

be mindful - this is not just an assessment tool, the BIA can do treatments that help to correct the issue(s) ie help reduce inflamation, help with the removal of pathogens and parasites from the gut, help lower the sensitivity to some ingredients (my treatments have been working on my worst two Gluten and Soy)

I have acutally been doing some initial research to see if it is viable for Joe and I to buy our own machine.

In australia the initial appoint costs $90 and the follow up appointments cost $60 ( with my health fund i get $30 back) If anyone does try it in the states or elsewhere i would be keen to know what the cost is...

Ant - i was trying to find you a practioner in Hong Kong but no luck - it could also be the chinese google limitations as well. there was one in Sydney and of course even better there is the one near me. If you wait until August/September when Joe is settled in Brisbane he can help with the transportation from Brisbane up to the T-bar

Naty - while doing the search i noticed there are some practioners in the UK

Harma - didnt see any in the middle east, but there were some in europe. you know you are welcome to Australia anytime!!!

mbeezie · Post by **mbeezie** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 9:24 pm

Joe/Gabes,

When I clicked on the Texas link the method used was NAET - is this what you are doing?

Mary Beth

Joefnh · Post by **Joefnh** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 9:37 pm

Hi Mary Beth I am going to defer to Gabes on asking Helen about the specific method used, as I am not sure of the different methods. I have been looking mainly at the technology as a whole and the science behind it.

Joe

mbeezie · Post by **mbeezie** » Sun May 01, 2011 5:51 am

I looked at several of the sites and the ones in Texas was the only one using NAET. All of the other sites use something called BioMeridian. Here is the info from the company that makes the BioMeridian machine http://www.biomeridian.com/allergy-study.htm It sites one study from the Univ of Hawaii comparing electroacupuncture according to Voll (EAV) to RAST testing (IgE allergy test) but makes no mention of delayed hypersensitivity reactions, which are not measure with RAST. The study sited doesn't talk about these reactions yet many of the practitioners are using it for sensitivity reactions. It appears that a food elimination diet is still needed.

Gabes and Joe, I am guessing this is what you had done, correct?

Mary Beth

Joefnh · Post by **Joefnh** » Sun May 01, 2011 8:01 am

Mary Beth I believe you are correct, it was based on the meridian lines and you would still reduce the intake of a food that came up as sensitive. I'm going to have to read these studies though.

Overall the method discussed with Helen was very similar to the LEAP process, with the goal to eliminate the yellows and the reds and stay with the 'greens'

Joe

Gabes-Apg · Post by **Gabes-Apg** » Sun May 01, 2011 3:30 pm

Mary Beth

not really food elimination

as you have follow up appointments, as part of the treatment they will try and reduce the sensitivity to the items in Red or the items that cause MC reaction.

The food sensitivity part is probably about 20 - 30% of my interest. LIstening to my body i can tell if an ingredient or a meal is ok

For me the two things that have encouraged me to go back was
a) the information that a blood test, a stool test, a CT Scan may not show, the the assessment on organs, the issues in the gut such as Pathogens, parasites, identifing joints or discs with issues. and follow up assessment, in the first appointment that candida was in the top 3 of issues, with the BIA treatment, and a diet adjustment next visit it was not in the top 10.

b) it has a mechanism to do treatment. This wont cure the MC or any of my other health issues, but it can help to get the body to a better state of wellness. it is cheaper than supplements and this treatment is very low risk to causing MC issues, unlike some supplements.