Progress Update - 26 y/o female in remission

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Re: Progress Update - 26 y/o female in remission

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Ok, understood. Thank you for the info.

Since I haven't yet ordered new copper or vit C supplements to try, I am going ahead with re-testing my algae oil supplement (Complement Vegan Omega 3) with a new batch. Literally only took 1 drop last night and already I'm feeling some weirdness, but we'll see. I'm confused as to why I was able to tolerate this product for 2 months earlier this year, and then suddenly started reacting with a new batch. Could it be that algae oil has histamine and I used up my enzymes? The only other ingredients are vegetable cellulose (capsule) and silicon dioxide. Maybe they changed the formulation and it's not agreeing with me anymore?

I'm stumped as to how to incorporate more EPA/DHA if not via algae oil. I doubt I'd be able to tolerate fish oil either. I guess I could keep trying different algae oil brands. :shrug:
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Yes, algae oil is usually a high histamine product. And silicone dioxide causes intestinal inflammation and can increase the risk of developing IBD, meaning that it can certainly aggravate the symptoms of IBD. We have to be extremely careful when adding foods, and that includes supplements, to our diet, or we may undo all the ground we've done for months. Real food beats supplements hands down.

I hope this helps,

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Oh wow! I'll stop them then, I had no idea. I'll keep looking for better algae oil brands. Do you know any possible foods I could try for EPA/DHA if I'm struggling with seafood?
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If you're not sensitive to them, salmon, black cod, arctic char, and rainbow or steelhead trout have the highest EPS + DHA per serving, and if they're fresh frozen (frozen-at-sea), they generally stay low histamine. But when using them, you have to thaw them quickly (not in the refrigerator), cook and eat them immediately, and freeze any leftovers. Histamine levels only go one way, and that's up.

Look for an algae oil brand with minimal additives.I don't recall whether or not you can eat eggs, but they're a good source of omega-3.

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Ok, thank you for the info. And with eggs, I tested positive for antibodies on my enterolabs, so probably won't be retesting them anytime soon.

Are you familiar with which forms of copper or vitamin C supplements would be safest for MCers to try?
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This is the zinc/copper capsule I use (I take one capsule daily):

https://www.amazon.com/Solaray-Zinc-Cop ... ref=sr_1_6

And this is the vitamin C capsule I take daily (but note that I've been in remission for over 20 years, so ascorbic acid doesn't bother me):

https://www.amazon.com/SOLARAY-Bioflavo ... ef=sr_1_38

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Thank you for the links. I did some digging and ordered some copper glycinate by Pure Encapsulations (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000H ... JMT3&psc=1). I'll open the capsule to start with a very small dose first.

I probably get around 20-23 mg zinc from my daily turkey, so I'm wondering how much copper I'd need to have an even ratio of zinc:copper? Chatgpt thinks I should get around 1 mg from supplements with my current food intake of about 0.8 mg. And should I eventually get tested for zinc/copper levels?

I appreciate any insight into this Tex. I know Gabes has discussed it indepth elsewhere too but not sure if she's online lately.
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As I recall, the recommended zinc/copper ratio should be maintained at about 15 to 1, according to some authorities. I note that the Solaray product contains a 25 to 1 ratio, and it also contains 53 µg of iodine. As long as you're getting your nutrients from real food, you're unlikely to have any overdose risks, unless you're really overdoing something. But of course when you're taking supplements, that safety net doesn't exist.

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