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At least on a camping trip the "toilets" are readily available at the drop of a hat - just duck behind a tree. One must, however, always remember to carry tissue at all times once the diagnosis of MC is made! I have never been without it once in the last 10 years. It's my security blanket that I take everywhere.
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Polly
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Linda in BC
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Linda in BC
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Linda,
Don't be discouraged. I have found, that for me, asacol (combined with proper diet) actually works better than Entocort. Perhaps this is an option you can consider?
I know you want to go the non-pharma route (and so do I), but a little help from big-pharma to relieve the symptoms, as you know, isn't such a terrible thing.
It just goes to show you how we all live on the marginal edge with our symptoms. We can't let our guard down for one moment. And even when we behave, we can still flare.
Good luck dear!
Rich
Don't be discouraged. I have found, that for me, asacol (combined with proper diet) actually works better than Entocort. Perhaps this is an option you can consider?
I know you want to go the non-pharma route (and so do I), but a little help from big-pharma to relieve the symptoms, as you know, isn't such a terrible thing.
It just goes to show you how we all live on the marginal edge with our symptoms. We can't let our guard down for one moment. And even when we behave, we can still flare.
Good luck dear!
Rich
"It's not what I believe. It's what I can prove." - A Few Good Men
Gabes,
The closest I will ever come to camping is a Marriott Courtyard. I too don't like being away from bathroom facilities.
How are the floods in your area? Residing I hope? We are getting hammered in the midwest right now. Had a ton of snow melt and now flooding rains. My sump pump is running non-stop.
Rich
The closest I will ever come to camping is a Marriott Courtyard. I too don't like being away from bathroom facilities.
How are the floods in your area? Residing I hope? We are getting hammered in the midwest right now. Had a ton of snow melt and now flooding rains. My sump pump is running non-stop.
Rich
"It's not what I believe. It's what I can prove." - A Few Good Men
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Linda in BC
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Sad but so true Rich, as i have learned!hoosier1 wrote:Linda,
It just goes to show you how we all live on the marginal edge with our symptoms. We can't let our guard down for one moment. And even when we behave, we can still flare.
Good luck dear!
Rich
Thanks for the encouragement
RE: Bathrooms and camping..
I go camping a lot, every summer, and it is probably my best place to be if I am reacting. Don't need to worry about finding a toilet like I do in town.. I just pull the horse over and go off the trail a bit behind some bushes or a rock. 
I suppose I am lucky because where we go, there are no people, it is real wilderness, and out there "the world is your toilet!!" 
( I didn't see Polly's post until I had aleady written this, and I always have a toilet paer in my saddlebags! That is my greatest fear about going camping.. being way out in the middle of nowhere and running out of toilet paper!!! ) )
"Be kind whenever possible. It is always possible."
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That's a credo that I live by, too.Linda wrote:"the world is your toilet!!"
Clearly, it's one of the main benefits of living on a farm or ranch, and arguably the biggest advantage that those of us with MC who live out in the boondocks have over our urbanized brethren and sistren. Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
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Linda those staples can be a real problem..Linda in BC wrote:Hear, hear, Tex! As long as we can make it to town occasionally to stock up on toilet paper.The ol' Sears and Roebuck just doesn't cut it!
Linda
Oh and I would be careful in squatting in the bush in Australia they have 6 of the worlds most deadly snakes... That would make MC seem trivial
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its ok joe, the weather is cooling and the snakes are starting to think about hibernation.
since all the floods, it is the spiders that have been causing issues, red backs (poisionius) and funnel webs (again poisionious)
Rich - to answer your question, things have dried up post the floods, now the local, state and federal agencies are all argueing who has to pay for what in regards to infrastructure rebuild.
There are still quite a few roads closed in the area, and quite a few that are in a bad state that test out the cars suspension.
since all the floods, it is the spiders that have been causing issues, red backs (poisionius) and funnel webs (again poisionious)
Rich - to answer your question, things have dried up post the floods, now the local, state and federal agencies are all argueing who has to pay for what in regards to infrastructure rebuild.
There are still quite a few roads closed in the area, and quite a few that are in a bad state that test out the cars suspension.
Gabes Ryan
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Dalai Lama
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
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Linda wrote
"the world is your toilet!!"
Tex wrote
That's a credo that I live by, too.
Sorry but that is a credo that I will not live by. After many years being a confirmed river rat my credo is leave nothing behind. That includes cans , bottles packaging human waste even the remains of a campfire if we light one at all. It is amazing how good your night vision is without all that light and how many nocturnal animals you can see to say nothing of the stars
Years ago you could come upon a great campsite on the river only to discover a huge fire ring with partial burned cans, bottles, food packaging and used toilet paper. Disgusting !
In the high desert canyons studies have been done that show that human waste and toilet paper can take almost sixty years to begin to decompose with such new soils with little bacteria in such a dry area. We bring river toilets so all the waste comes out with us. Small boxes that are emptied much like a recreational vehicle waste system is emptied.
It has been a long time since I have come upon a campsite that one could tell if anyone had camped their at all. The river community has really embraced the idea to great mutual benefit to all.
Just my opinion that a feel very strongly about since for so may years industry felt that the world was their dumping ground. Look where it got us with rivers catching fire. At least, bring a plastic bag with you like dog people do.
Matthew
"the world is your toilet!!"
Tex wrote
That's a credo that I live by, too.
Sorry but that is a credo that I will not live by. After many years being a confirmed river rat my credo is leave nothing behind. That includes cans , bottles packaging human waste even the remains of a campfire if we light one at all. It is amazing how good your night vision is without all that light and how many nocturnal animals you can see to say nothing of the stars
Years ago you could come upon a great campsite on the river only to discover a huge fire ring with partial burned cans, bottles, food packaging and used toilet paper. Disgusting !
In the high desert canyons studies have been done that show that human waste and toilet paper can take almost sixty years to begin to decompose with such new soils with little bacteria in such a dry area. We bring river toilets so all the waste comes out with us. Small boxes that are emptied much like a recreational vehicle waste system is emptied.
It has been a long time since I have come upon a campsite that one could tell if anyone had camped their at all. The river community has really embraced the idea to great mutual benefit to all.
Just my opinion that a feel very strongly about since for so may years industry felt that the world was their dumping ground. Look where it got us with rivers catching fire. At least, bring a plastic bag with you like dog people do.
Matthew
Well Matthew,
I'm a little surprised that you don't also try to recover and take with you the carbon dioxide that you exhale with every breath, when you're out in the wilderness. And what about the methane gas from flatus? Just kidding.
I have also on occasion camped on public land, and when I did so, I never left anything but tracks, either, so as not to spoil the ambiance for anyone else. However, as noble as that seems, in reality, feces is nothing but fertilizer, and whether you want to believe it or not, it will benefit the soil where it is deposited, in the long run. Cans, bottles, packaging, etc., are an entirely different issue, and have nothing to do with this topic anyway, since neither Linda nor I would ever dump any of that stuff on the land. Obviously, from an esthetic viewpoint, regularly used routes are not enhanced by the presence of fecal deposits, but realistically, it is foolish to think that digging a hole and taking a dump a respectable distance away from the "trail", (or riverbed), is some sort of sin against nature and the environment. Sure, if you barely bury it, a coyote or some other animal will dig it up, and scatter paper everywhere, but if you bury it deep enough, that isn't as likely to happen. And, in areas where a fire is safe, it's easy enough to burn the paper, and eliminate that problem right off the bat.
The point is, we aren't the first species to come along and take a dump in the wilderness. Compared with the larger animals, the "tonnage" of fecal matter that we turn out in a year is only a fraction of what an elk, or bear, or deer produces. They leave it where it falls, of course, and unless they live in a desert area, in about a year, nature will convert it into humus, and utilize it for
I'm a little surprised that you don't also try to recover and take with you the carbon dioxide that you exhale with every breath, when you're out in the wilderness. And what about the methane gas from flatus?
Just kidding.I have also on occasion camped on public land, and when I did so, I never left anything but tracks, either, so as not to spoil the ambiance for anyone else. However, as noble as that seems, in reality, feces is nothing but fertilizer, and whether you want to believe it or not, it will benefit the soil where it is deposited, in the long run. Cans, bottles, packaging, etc., are an entirely different issue, and have nothing to do with this topic anyway, since neither Linda nor I would ever dump any of that stuff on the land. Obviously, from an esthetic viewpoint, regularly used routes are not enhanced by the presence of fecal deposits, but realistically, it is foolish to think that digging a hole and taking a dump a respectable distance away from the "trail", (or riverbed), is some sort of sin against nature and the environment. Sure, if you barely bury it, a coyote or some other animal will dig it up, and scatter paper everywhere, but if you bury it deep enough, that isn't as likely to happen. And, in areas where a fire is safe, it's easy enough to burn the paper, and eliminate that problem right off the bat.
The point is, we aren't the first species to come along and take a dump in the wilderness. Compared with the larger animals, the "tonnage" of fecal matter that we turn out in a year is only a fraction of what an elk, or bear, or deer produces. They leave it where it falls, of course, and unless they live in a desert area, in about a year, nature will convert it into humus, and utilize it for
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.