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Hi all,
I just was forwarded results on someone I know who has a history of malabsorption, which has responded to my diet for her IBS-type symptoms and possibly other symptoms as well. These tests were done by a lab called Spectracell, and they have a website if anyone is interested. Lots of good information in there, whether you are interested in the tests or not.
She has low B12 in her cells, low insulin (not a diabetic according to any blood work), low Biotin (another B-vit), and low chromium. Not sure the other results, but I hope the rest were all within normal range.
I thought this was interesting. She's now talking about giving up the HFCS immediately! I think that would be a pretty good start! I'm going to share a few of my B-Right B-complex with her as it has Biotin in it, hopefully enough. I'm not sure it's going to be enough B-12, however, but I can share some of my Biochem sublingual B-12/folate with her. I hope she has a printout that I can look at. I'm not sure if she takes more than just a regular multi.
She may have added some B-12, but perhaps it's not as good a product as mine. She did have a low blood level on the B-12 in the past. That's why I suspect she may be taking a little more now, maybe a different sublingual, but I know she'd take the correct form, at least. Could be that some of us just really need a much higher dose of things. It's nice to be able to monitor like this to prevent getting too much of a good thing.
Maybe the lab will give her some guidelines to help her know how much of these nutrients she needs to take supplementally to try to get enough into her cells? Looks like another one of those "before the villi are gone" finds, doesn't it? Maybe this is very early insulin resistance showing up, and she can easily do something about before it causes her problems.
Will let you know if I find out anything more. My but we are cutting edge here, aren't we?!!
Yours, Luce
Lab that measures nutrients WITHIN the cells themselves.
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Joan,
Sorry I missed your post, not that I would've known the answer to that question. I need to find out about that myself, but I'm not sure I want my results to go to the insurance company, at least not yet, thus the interest in the price for myself.
Are you thinking about doing some of those?
Yours, Luce
Sorry I missed your post, not that I would've known the answer to that question. I need to find out about that myself, but I'm not sure I want my results to go to the insurance company, at least not yet, thus the interest in the price for myself.
Are you thinking about doing some of those?
Yours, Luce
One of the docs around here who does the testing has a very interesting background of doing drugs. 
I found the court case with her disability insurer online.
Her web site says she is a cosmetic dermatologist but I can't find any free web site that says she is board certified.
I found the court case with her disability insurer online.Her web site says she is a cosmetic dermatologist but I can't find any free web site that says she is board certified.
DISCLAIMER: I am not a doctor and don't play one on TV.
LDN July 18, 2014
Joan
LDN July 18, 2014
Joan
Joan,
I notice that many of the physicians were not mainstream also -- not MD's.
I suspect that some people have "issues" who go into the cosmetic business, etc., but not necessarily.
Actually, I know one very fine doc who was in her fifties, and just decided medicine was too much to deal with, wanting to spend more time with her son who was in his teens at that time, so she went into that. It doesn't require one to be plastic surgeon to do that, but she was a board certified family practioner. For a long time, she was my mother's doctor and also mine -- great doc. You don't have to deal with all the crape once you get away from insurance companies, so who can blame anyone for leaving, although I know she had lots of grief to go through giving up that practice.
I can see how this is an easy thing for these practioners who can't get their certifications due to legal issues, and also, how these labs need someone willing to order the tests. I think they state in their website or at least literature that they are not endorsing any of the ordering physicians, but rather, just stating that they will order the tests.
I know one of the best docs in the state who is seriously considering doing these tests since she knows alot about malabsorption, etc. The lab is CLIA approved, but I'm not sure that tells one anything about the validity of it. The science looks good, however.
Maybe more will be written up about this type of testing as time goes on. It's encouraging that MC is covering some of their tests, not that their not covering a test means it's not valuable, mind ya. After all, MC pays or used to only pay for one pap every three years, even though American Cancer Society and common sense dictated more frequently. Alot of people thought that meant they didn't have to have one but every three years.
I would be reluctant to go to a physician without the proper credentially, particularly if was due to previous drug use or illegal or immoral activity , but perhaps the person is just trying to make an honest living using their degree, and they are rehabilitated.
On the other hand, it's really just the signature on the order I need for the tests. The results were pretty straight forward that I saw. It may be difficult to tell if the supplements are really helping according to how one feels, unlike my response to the gf diet which was easily verifiable by the symptoms.
Obviously, if one's blood levels are low in say, B-12/folate, and you feel better
taking the appropriate form of it for absorption, then the cell tests should come back ok -- that was the person tested's experience -- no problem getting it into the cell per these tests. Not much of a validation, but the results are pretty believable considering her condition.
If you've not already, perhaps just the blood testing ordered by your regular diet would ease your mind, particularly for the fat soluble vitamins, but also for the water soluble since you have colitis and watery diarrhea with it.
Best wishes to you. Will let you know what I think if I eventually get over there to give 'em my blood.
I'm going to use someone here with all the crudentials in place and a good track record.
Yours, Luce
I notice that many of the physicians were not mainstream also -- not MD's.
I suspect that some people have "issues" who go into the cosmetic business, etc., but not necessarily.
Actually, I know one very fine doc who was in her fifties, and just decided medicine was too much to deal with, wanting to spend more time with her son who was in his teens at that time, so she went into that. It doesn't require one to be plastic surgeon to do that, but she was a board certified family practioner. For a long time, she was my mother's doctor and also mine -- great doc. You don't have to deal with all the crape once you get away from insurance companies, so who can blame anyone for leaving, although I know she had lots of grief to go through giving up that practice.
I can see how this is an easy thing for these practioners who can't get their certifications due to legal issues, and also, how these labs need someone willing to order the tests. I think they state in their website or at least literature that they are not endorsing any of the ordering physicians, but rather, just stating that they will order the tests.
I know one of the best docs in the state who is seriously considering doing these tests since she knows alot about malabsorption, etc. The lab is CLIA approved, but I'm not sure that tells one anything about the validity of it. The science looks good, however.
Maybe more will be written up about this type of testing as time goes on. It's encouraging that MC is covering some of their tests, not that their not covering a test means it's not valuable, mind ya. After all, MC pays or used to only pay for one pap every three years, even though American Cancer Society and common sense dictated more frequently. Alot of people thought that meant they didn't have to have one but every three years.
I would be reluctant to go to a physician without the proper credentially, particularly if was due to previous drug use or illegal or immoral activity , but perhaps the person is just trying to make an honest living using their degree, and they are rehabilitated.
On the other hand, it's really just the signature on the order I need for the tests. The results were pretty straight forward that I saw. It may be difficult to tell if the supplements are really helping according to how one feels, unlike my response to the gf diet which was easily verifiable by the symptoms.
Obviously, if one's blood levels are low in say, B-12/folate, and you feel better
taking the appropriate form of it for absorption, then the cell tests should come back ok -- that was the person tested's experience -- no problem getting it into the cell per these tests. Not much of a validation, but the results are pretty believable considering her condition.
If you've not already, perhaps just the blood testing ordered by your regular diet would ease your mind, particularly for the fat soluble vitamins, but also for the water soluble since you have colitis and watery diarrhea with it.
Best wishes to you. Will let you know what I think if I eventually get over there to give 'em my blood.
I'm going to use someone here with all the crudentials in place and a good track record.
Yours, Luce