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Hi Aussie buddies,

I still don't know what a hoop snake is. Please enlighten!

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Hoop Snake

Until today I thought it was an aussie thing…. I was surprised to see that it is also folklore in the states as well.


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The hoop snake is a legendary creature of the United States and Australia. The hoop snake is referred to in the Pecos Bill stories; although it is his description of hoop snakes that most people are most familiar with, stories of the creature predate those fictional tales considerably. Several sightings of the hoop snake have been alleged along the Minnesota-Wisconsin border in the St. Croix River valley and in Wake County in North Carolina. (See fearsome critters.)
According to folklore, the distinguishing feature of a hoop snake is that it can grasp its tail in its jaws and roll after its prey like a wheel,[1] thus looking somewhat like the ouroboros of Greek mythology, or Tsuchinoko (a legendary fat snake that can roll like a wheel) in Japan. In one version of the myth, the snake straightens out at the last second, skewering its victim with its venomous tail. The only escape is to hide behind a tree, which receives the deadly blow instead and promptly dies from the poison.

The hoop snake is mentioned in a letter from 1784 (published in Tour in the U. S. A., Vol. I, p. 263-65. London):
“ As other serpents crawl upon their bellies, so can this; but he has another method of moving peculiar to his own species, which he always adopts when he is in eager pursuit of his prey; he throws himself into a circle, running rapidly around, advancing like a hoop, with his tail arising and pointed forward in the circle, by which he is always in the ready position of striking.
It is observed that they only make use of this method in attacking; for when they fly from their enemy they go upon their bellies, like other serpents. From the above circumstance, peculiar to themselves, they have also derived the appellation of hoop snakes. ”
Sightings are still occasionally reported, even though the existence of the hoop snake has never been accepted by the scientific community. Naturalist Raymond Ditmars placed $10,000 in trust at a New York bank for the first person to provide evidence of a hoop snake.[4] Some have suggested that is a distorted description of the sidewinder of the American southwest, or of mud snakes which will occasionally lie in a loose hoop shape.[2][5]


In Australia, it is like the drop bear, it is considered fictitious (yes the drop bear is totally fictitious), us aussies will convince a group of tourists that these critters exist, especially if the tourists plan on getting a camper (Small RV) and go exploring this great southern land.
This is done normally to european tourists more than USA/Canadian tourists.
Now we are in an age of ready access to internet and google, the joke is not as effective, as they can quickly verify the story, prior to the Internet era tourists would wear vegemite behind their ears to avoid a drop bear attack.
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Gabes and Polly, when I read about the Aussie hoop snake and drop bear, I started thinking Snipe Hunt. I'm sure many of you had that experience. JoAnn
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Just what I was thinking, JoAnn............ :lol:
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Post by starfire »

:grin: I had heard of the "hoop snake" when I was young so I had a pretty good idea what you were referring to. HaHa Interesting how different "folklore" can span continents.

I always enjoy the aussie stories and language lessons. Keep 'em coming.

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Post by MaggieRedwings »

Sounds like the stories of the Jackalope of the Southwest and Texas area.

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Now someone will have to tell us what a snipe hunt is. I have seen that mentioned before. A snipe is a type of small bird, isn't it?

Jackalope is new to me. Another one that needs explaining.

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