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I am presuming that the MC family have all finished dinner, the washing up is done and i can ask a BM question at the dinner table.....
Food input versus BM output. i have just had my fourth BM for the day (it is 1pm here in aus)
it is not D.
it is what i knew as a 'normal' BM (the type you would do once a day when you got up in the morning.... do we remember them???)
(albeit since late last year when i had my first chronic attack, the message system does not give me as much warning as it used to, so I have been doing walks to the ladies)
If i just did one of these then i would be happy as i would consider it normal.
I have just done my fourth largish quantity BM in a 7 hour period
i started to think, have I eaten this much food in the past 30 - 48 hours???
am i not absorbing foods properly?
speaking of this - Tex how is your immidium input, consistency output going? has there been improvement? hopefully there has been no discomfort....
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Gabes-Apg
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Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
Gabes,
Good question. My guess would be that high-volume, normal-appearing BMs are an indication that you may not be getting complete digestion, but the budesonide is working quite well. I've always found that when my digestion was working efficiently, unless I ate a lot of fiber, my output quantity was typically rather small.
Maybe your system is just catching up today, from a prior backlog.
Imodium seems to be pretty effective, for altering the "texture" of the output from an ileostomy. Half a caplet, twice a day, (morning and night), seems to be sufficient. The problem that I am having, is that with the time shift it causes, most of my BMs seem to occur during the night, (which is not good timing, of course). No matter what I do, I always have to get up during the wee hours of the morning, to "do my duty". Today, I'm trying a different approach - I skipped taking it this morning, and I took half a caplet tonight. We'll see how that works.
The only solution may be to simply not eat anything after about mid-day, but that makes for a lot of eating in a short period of time, and a very long period without eating anything. Maybe I'll just have to get used to getting up then, every night. Well, of course, I'm already used to getting up then, but I always seem to have a problem getting back to sleep, afterward.
There are foods that don't work very well, also, that used to work just fine. Cheese, for example, causes a lot of gas - something that didn't happen before. Apparently, it's going to be necessary for me to avoid dairy products, again. I'm getting closer to the diet that I followed when I was originally recovering from the gluten damage.
Tex
Good question. My guess would be that high-volume, normal-appearing BMs are an indication that you may not be getting complete digestion, but the budesonide is working quite well. I've always found that when my digestion was working efficiently, unless I ate a lot of fiber, my output quantity was typically rather small.
Maybe your system is just catching up today, from a prior backlog.
Imodium seems to be pretty effective, for altering the "texture" of the output from an ileostomy. Half a caplet, twice a day, (morning and night), seems to be sufficient. The problem that I am having, is that with the time shift it causes, most of my BMs seem to occur during the night, (which is not good timing, of course). No matter what I do, I always have to get up during the wee hours of the morning, to "do my duty". Today, I'm trying a different approach - I skipped taking it this morning, and I took half a caplet tonight. We'll see how that works.
The only solution may be to simply not eat anything after about mid-day, but that makes for a lot of eating in a short period of time, and a very long period without eating anything. Maybe I'll just have to get used to getting up then, every night. Well, of course, I'm already used to getting up then, but I always seem to have a problem getting back to sleep, afterward.
There are foods that don't work very well, also, that used to work just fine. Cheese, for example, causes a lot of gas - something that didn't happen before. Apparently, it's going to be necessary for me to avoid dairy products, again. I'm getting closer to the diet that I followed when I was originally recovering from the gluten damage.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
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Gabes-Apg
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i dont think it is backlog as things had been semi ok for past couple of days.
yes i have the dosage of budesonide figured out......
i have tested not having it - and it is on those days that i have 6 - 7 small to medium motions and a bit of cramping
if i have a big dose then i do suffer constipation, and that takes me 2 days to get back to normal.
yes i have the dosage of budesonide figured out......
i have tested not having it - and it is on those days that i have 6 - 7 small to medium motions and a bit of cramping
if i have a big dose then i do suffer constipation, and that takes me 2 days to get back to normal.
Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
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"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
That suggests that you are still having a relatively strong autoimmune reaction, but the budesonide helps to make it manageable.Gabes wrote:i have tested not having it - and it is on those days that i have 6 - 7 small to medium motions and a bit of cramping
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
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Gabes-Apg
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sorry - had a vague moment.... i am not having budesonide
the only thing i am taking for the MC is the questran lite of a night. i am at half the dose (4mg) that i started on when diagnosed
I have not taken loperamide since the dodgy food incident a couple of weeks ago.
aside from that i am only taking meds for the PCOS situation.
the only thing i am taking for the MC is the questran lite of a night. i am at half the dose (4mg) that i started on when diagnosed
I have not taken loperamide since the dodgy food incident a couple of weeks ago.
aside from that i am only taking meds for the PCOS situation.
Gabes Ryan
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
"Anything that contradicts experience and logic should be abandoned"
Dalai Lama
Hmmmmmm. Well that certainly changes the picture. You know, you're not old enough to be having "senior moments". 
In that case, as long as they are formed, you're doing OK. Hopefully, the volume/number of BMs will diminish as time goes on.
Tex
In that case, as long as they are formed, you're doing OK. Hopefully, the volume/number of BMs will diminish as time goes on.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Gabes,
I went through a phase like you are experiencing - formed BMs but more than I considered normal - also still a bit more urgency than I would like. That gradually evolved into fewer and fewer episodes and now,most days, I only have 1-2 BMs and they are well formed and much less urgent. Maybe you are still healing and just not quite there yet . . . at least that's how I looked at it. IMO, as long as it does not revert back to watery D, formed stools are still a step in the right direction. It took a full year for me to get to the point of 1-2 formed stools.
Mary Beth
I went through a phase like you are experiencing - formed BMs but more than I considered normal - also still a bit more urgency than I would like. That gradually evolved into fewer and fewer episodes and now,most days, I only have 1-2 BMs and they are well formed and much less urgent. Maybe you are still healing and just not quite there yet . . . at least that's how I looked at it. IMO, as long as it does not revert back to watery D, formed stools are still a step in the right direction. It took a full year for me to get to the point of 1-2 formed stools.
Mary Beth