Shampoo Help

racenfan · Post by **racenfan** » Mon Nov 07, 2011 12:38 pm

Hello!!
I haven't posted in a very long time, I am a "stalker" I read here every day I just don't post or comment, because I stink at writing.

Anyway, I now have a new diagnosis, Hoshimoto's and Celiac and it was found by having a full body skin rash. Especially if I have anything to do with gluten, my scalp has gotten the worse of the dry skin and I am having a heck of a time finding gluten free dandruff shampoo, does anyone know of any good brands?

I bought Garnia Fruitous (sp?), I didn't see one thing in there I thought could have gluten, yet I had a reaction within minutes of using it. I actually think I have more trouble with hair/skin items than I do with food.

Post by **tex** » Mon Nov 07, 2011 2:06 pm

Hi Racenfan,

Sorry to hear about the new problems. I'll leave the shampoo recommendations to someone who knows more about them - I tend to use whatever is handy, and I seem to get away with that.

You may be correct about the skin issues being more of a problem for you than GI issues. A high percentage of celiacs with dermatitis herpetiformis are asymptomatic to digestive system issues. They're just as vulnerable to intestinal damage, but they don't have the clinical symptoms of most celiacs, for some unknown reason.

Tex

sarkin · Post by **sarkin** » Mon Nov 07, 2011 2:47 pm

Racenfan,

I am sensitive to some synthetic fragrances, it seems, and maybe (?) to sodium lauryl sulfate. When things are really bad, I wash my hair just with baking soda (mostly using it to clean my scalp, and it's soothing). I use plain coconut oil in my hair as a conditioner and/or styling (frizz management) product.

Hopefully you'll get some good product recommendations. I have had luck with a Giovanni shampoo that has tea tree oil in it. I seem to grow sensitive to some products over time, so try to switch around.

Good luck, and I hope your symptoms settle down quickly,

Sara

Kari · Post by **Kari** » Mon Nov 07, 2011 5:44 pm

Racenfan,

I found a shampoo that's oil/fragrance/gluten/corn/soy/wheat/egg/dairy/tree nut free and have been using it for quite some time with no trouble. The name is Magick Botanicals and i found it in the Natural Grocers market. It's a bit pricey, but worth it IMO.

Lots of luck with finding a product that works for you.

Love,
Kari

racenfan · Post by **racenfan** » Mon Nov 07, 2011 5:58 pm

Thanks so much for the suggestions, I will try these and see what happens. My skin is so dry and flaky I read that Vitamin E worked well, went and bought a bottle and only after I removed the security label did I realize it had wheat germ. Due to my GI issues and my family history of other GI issues I had decieded gluten free was the best option for me, after a month I had "just a little, it can't hurt" and fell off the wagon, after a month I went gluten free again for about a month and once again fell off the wagon, that is when I developed the rash.

sarkin · Post by **sarkin** » Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:13 pm

Racenfan,

Though I believe in trying not to think in terms of on/off wagon (the word "cheat" is another pet peeve) - one thing about your recent experience is, at least now you know for sure. I inadvertently proved it to myself, too - the last time (and I hope it was the LAST time!) was also a label-reading snafu. Supplement was wheat-free, but not GF (barley malt). I had a tiny amount, literally from an eye-dropper. OW

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It also takes some time for the people around us to get with the "yes, a little WILL hurt" concept. My husband has been an incredible help, support, chief cook and bottle washer - and 8 months later, we still have shopping errors, "utensil management errors," etc.

I have had trouble finding Vitamin E that I trust, so I sympathize. Several of us are using coconut oil for skin and hair (and also in the kitchen!). It's much cheaper than most natural skin-care products, and a lot less of a mess than olive oil, because it's solid at room temperature, but melts at skin temperature (or, of course, in a frying pan - even on a very hot day). A little goes a long way, and is very pleasant.

I know it's trite, but thinking of what you DO eat makes shopping, planning, cooking etc. easier than thinking of the NOs. My YES list is pretty good

Here's wishing you the same,

Sara

Zizzle · Post by **Zizzle** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:45 pm

I found this link helpful. I notice one GF/CF shampoo by a mainstream brand - Neutrogena Clean Volume. I personally use Giovanni brand and occasionally Nature's Gate based on the ingredients, but they don't advertise as GF.

Shampoo

Wheat derivatives and ingredients from the other gluten grains are commonly used as binders to help the shampoo stick together and are also used as emollients in the form of oils. Following is a list of grain-derived shampoo ingredients. Most of these ingredients do not theoretically contain any intact wheat proteins, but may do so due to incomplete processing or contamination

Triticum vulgare (wheat), hordeum vulgare (barley), secale cereale (rye), or avena sativa (oats), including any oil, protein, hydrosylate, or other extract from any part of the plant.
Tocopherol/Tocopheryl Acetate (Vitamin E), which may be derived from wheat
Hydrolyzed Hydrolyzed wheat protein / hydrolyzed wheat starch, also sometimes listed as hydrolyzed vegetable protein, stearyldimoniumhydroxypropyl or hydroxypropyltrimonium
Cyclodextrin, which may be produced from starch by means of enzymatic conversion
Amino peptide complex
Maltodextrin, dextrin, dextrin palmitate, or (hydrolyzed) malt extract
Phytosphingosine extract
Amino peptide complex
Prolamine
Beta glucan
Disodium Wheat Germamido PEG-2-Sulfosuccinat
Fermented Grain Extract
AMP-Isostearoyl
PG-Propyl Silanetriol
PVP Crosspolymer
Ethyldimonium Ethosulfate
Yeast extract
Phytospingosine Extract
"Fragrance" is a broad category that may contain large numbers of chemicals that are otherwise unlisted on the label

Information Source:
www.Wikipedia.com
http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/eczema-(at ... ction.aspx
http://lakemichiganceliacs.com/index.ph ... den-Gluten
http://safecosmetics.org/article.php?id=222

The following is not a complete list of every gluten free shampoo:

Gluten-Free Savonnerie, Inc shampoo
http://www.gfsoap.com/ email: info@gfsoap.com.

Burt's Bees 1-800-849-7112 www.burtsbees.com
Peppermint Shower Soap

Savonnerie www.gfsoap.com
Gluten Free Shampoo & Conditioner

Sensaria 615-791-8170 dianegal@mysensaria.com
Shampoo
Conditioner
Styling/Hair Gel

Synergy www.synergyhair.com
Synergy Silk Shampoo

Logona Hair Care http://www.logona-usa.com/gluten-free.cfm
Cream Bamboo Shampoo

Magick Botannicals www.magickbotanicals.com
Gluten free shampoo & conditioner

Neutrogena - 1-800-582-4048
Clean Volume Shampoo

http://www.gfcfdiet.com/Healthhygiene.htm

Beth · Post by **Beth** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:35 pm

Hi Racenfan - I was just researching this the other day because I wanted to know whether the Neutrogena T-gel shampoo I use is gluten free. It looks like it is: http://celiacnet.com/hygiene.html. T-gel is the only thing I can use that will keep my scalp condition under control. Otherwise, I go crazy with itching and painful red bumps. The rest of this list will help you figure out gluten-free regular shampoos that don't specifically address dandruff/scalp conditions.

Good luck!
Elizabeth

draperygoddess · Post by **draperygoddess** » Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:33 am

Elizabeth,

Wow! What you're describing is me to a T. I actually posted about the red bumps on another thread not long ago. Do you know what causes the itching and bumps? And do you use the T-gel every day, or do you use something else as well?

Beth · Post by **Beth** » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:28 am

Hi Cynthia - I use the T-gel everyday. It works like a charm. I still get some of the flaky stuff, but at least I'm not going crazy with itching. I wash my hair first with Suave - it's cheap and gets my hair mostly clean so I don't need to use so much of the T-gel to clean AND treat the scalp condition. I think I probably just have psoriasis. Try it - you'll be happy, I think!

sarkin · Post by **sarkin** » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:59 am

"Just psoriasis" might be another way of saying "just gluten sensitivity" - IMO...

It's one of the dwillion conditions known to be connected.

Maybe in time your scalp will be calmer!

draperygoddess · Post by **draperygoddess** » Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:38 pm

Sara, I would think so too, but it has continued to be a problem even after changing my diet.

Elizabeth, I have been using the T-gel once or twice a week. The rest of the time I have been trying a few different things to see if anything helps. Maybe I should start using the T-gel every day...my hair is pretty short, and our water is soft, so it doesn't take much!

sarkin · Post by **sarkin** » Thu Nov 10, 2011 2:19 pm

Interesting, Cynthia. My husband also has that kind of itchy, flaky scalp, and his has definitely gotten better since the house went GF/etc.F. He's had it all his life, so was surprised. But it does fluctuate some, so maybe it will come back for no reason, and turn out to have nothing to do with diet change...

Beth · Post by **Beth** » Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:58 pm

Hi Cynthia - I find that if I skip even three days that I start getting really itchy. I would do it at least every other day. I think you'll see a difference. At least I hope!

draperygoddess · Post by **draperygoddess** » Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:31 pm

Beth, I am going to try that, starting tomorrow. Winter is always more itchy, anyway (not just my head, but everywhere else as well!). Cross your fingers!

Sara, I've had the itchy/flaky thing since childhood, though the bumps are a relatively recent development (in the past several years). Has your husband ever been tested for gluten?