Feel free to discuss any topic of general interest, so long as nothing you post here is likely to be interpreted as insulting, and/or inflammatory, nor clearly designed to provoke any individual or group. Please be considerate of others feelings, and they will be considerate of yours.
I had a reaction this morning very soon after I had my turkey broth with potato mash. I took my pain meds and an immodium, and things seem to abate. No more gurgling and diarrhea all day.
I ate a lamb chop, some potato and half a zucchini with no adverse results.
This evening I started a new pot of turkey soup, roasting the turkey bones and parts. I had some of the roast turkey for dinner. Nothing else.
Very soon after (literally as it hit my stomach) the gurgling and cramps started and are still going very strong.
I have never really liked turkey much, except smoked for cold cuts. It's not like chicken, which I love. I don't even like the smell of the soup cooking. It's only OK to eat when doctored up a lot. Maybe my dislike of it was telling me something?
Lesley, I have recently discovered that foods I don't like very much anymore (i.e. milk, green peppers) are foods that just don't seem to "sit well" with me. I never really thought about why I didn't like them. I know now that they
just don't feel good to me. I think connecting with our food is something we're doing really well here. I only wish
it hadn't taken me so long!
- paying close attention to what's appealing and smells "right" makes all the sense in the world to me. Case in point, I have had a strong aversion to celery since I was 20 years old - don't like the smell, the texture or the flavor. So I have avoided it ever since - imagine my surprise when it came up as highly reactive on my MRT test .
Lesley - so glad you figured this out - one more piece of the puzzle falling into place. Now you can stop torturing yourself by eating something you don't care for. With your kitchen expertise, I'm sure you'll figure out something that will be appealing, and will sit well with your system. Perhaps the drippings from a roast leg of lamb can be the foundation for a good stock ???
Love,
Kari
"My mouth waters whenever I pass a bakery shop and sniff the aroma of fresh bread, but I am also grateful simply to be alive and sniffing." Dr. Bernstein
That does indeed seem mighty suspicious. If you get tired of mutton, you might try duck, goose, emu, bison, elk, venison, etc. It might be a bit hard to find out in CA, but alligator meat might be another option, (they say it tastes just like chicken - ).
Also, as Elmer Fudd would recommend, there's always that wascally wabbit meat. Actually, rabbit may be one of the best choices, because, pound-for-pound, it has more protein and fewer calories and cholesterol than any other meat, and like grass-fed beef, it has very high levels of omega-3's and other "good" fats. And as a bonus, it's 100% white meat. It doesn't get much better than that, (for someone who was originally a chicken fan).
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Tex: I'd love to find some "wascally wabbit", but I haven't seen it anywhere. I will look online. Have you ever found it?
Alligator - I have had it. It is VERY tough and rubbery. Nothing like any chicken I have ever eaten. The flavor is mild, if you can get beyond the feeling that you are eating rubber bands.
Kari and Deb - I agree that our taste buds and smell warn us of things that we should avoid. Still, fresh baked bread makes my mouth water. I know that's not coming back in my life, but the smell of cheese also has a pull, and I do hope that one day...
My friend is going to get a huge pot of turkey stock. I am not taking a chance. I still feel a little sensitive and gurgly. I have to find something else to eat
Lesley wrote:Tex: I'd love to find some "wascally wabbit", but I haven't seen it anywhere. I will look online. Have you ever found it?
Yes, I can recall seeing it in a supermarket, somewhere, a few years ago, but I don't remember where. I'm sure there are rabbit producers in various locations, and I would assume that many of them might show up at Farmers Markets in nearby cities. You might be able to find it at Asian Markets. It's available online, but it's usually pretty pricey that way.
Lesley wrote:Alligator - I have had it. It is VERY tough and rubbery. Nothing like any chicken I have ever eaten. The flavor is mild, if you can get beyond the feeling that you are eating rubber bands.
Someone might have sold you an old, tough, gator. I've never tried any, since they're scarce as hen's teeth around here.
I hope you can find something that will be both safe and tasty.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
I hope eliminating the turkey culprit accelerates your progress toward comfort and health! (A neighbor just served venison, but that's pretty unusual fare for most of us. Fingers crossed...)
I have been doing really well with duck, strangely enough, but given that you and I have such opposing food intolerances... maybe that's *not* a good sign for you!
(Come to think of it - though I haven't had a turkey intolerance up until now, since my visiting nephew didn't help nearly enough with leftovers, I fear I may be heading that way soon.)
We used to get rabbit upstate, occasionally. It is available at expensive specialty places in the city, but I have been fortunate to be doing OK enough with reasonably available meats that I haven't tried rabbit since MC surfaced.
Lesley that's great news that you might be onto the culprit. I hope your progress continues. This really does require us to be our own food detectives.
Tex when I lived in Austin we used to go up to the rattlesnake roundup in sweetwarer to watch the crazy guys climb into a sleeping bag with 40 or so rattlesnakes...anyway in those days I got to try and like grilled rattlesnake. Not sure you can find that in the stores up here.
Well, it would be tough to find in the stores around here, too. I've had grilled rattlesnake, and it was good, but IMO it's even better deepfried.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
I don't know Marliss the snake was pretty darn good, although the best non standard meat I have ever had was kangaroo...it's great, tastes like venison. I had that while in Australia in Brisbane last Easter. I think I better hop on down to Oz again for another serving.
RE: Eating rabbit
...I would look in markets in Italian neighborhoods, if there are any where you are. We often have rabbit in supermarkets here in heavily Italian CT, though I don't buy it, being too fond of the bunnies in our back yard. Funny story, sort of--my Italian father in law served pasta sauce on Easter one year when I was first in the family, and told me the meat in it was chicken. I ate it, he looked on, smiling, and asked me how I liked it. I said, wow, really good chicken. It was actually rabbit, he told me after. I was appalled that I had eaten bunny on Easter, and chewed him out for tricking me. He's now 90 y/o and still laughs over it.
Been out with my son again today. What can I tell you? We have a great relationship. I didn't do much, but I am so tired!
I ate something today that upset me, but NOTHING like the turkey. That's been causing a lot of rumblings and gurglings and some pain in my left side, though no D today.
Not sure what it was, but I am pretty sure it was a spice on a steak. But it could be that the upset over the turkey is still taking it's toll.
I ate all sorts of things in Kenya. There is a restaurant where they grill anything and everything available, including crocodiles, snakes and such like. Most of it didn't measure up to really good steak and lamb.
It is fairly pricy, but shlepping around LA to find it is not something I can do right now. Anyway, since I am buying the purest possible products I will have get some and try it first and see if it upsets me.
Lesley its great you had a chance to get out with your son. I was thinking about what you are going through in trying to nail down your intolerances. I would be very cautious in eating out early on in the process of healing and identifying what foods might be an issue. When eating out its almost impossible to tell what ingredients you are getting. Often even the restauraunt does not know fully what a food item contains as it was mass product elsewhere.
At his point the old saying of keeping it simple is the best advice. Purchase and prepare your own foods from fresh ingredients. Avoid anything in a wrapper or a box. It really can be like stepping on landlines at times.
That looks like good quality meat, and a fair price.
Tex
It is suspected that some of the hardest material known to science can be found in the skulls of GI specialists who insist that diet has nothing to do with the treatment of microscopic colitis.
Visit the Microscopic Colitis Foundation Website
- paying close attention to what's appealing and smells "right" makes all the sense in the world to me. Case in point, I have had a strong aversion to celery since I was 20 years old - don't like the smell, the texture or the flavor. So I have avoided it ever since - imagine my surprise when it came up as highly reactive on my MRT test 
.
).
